dsh said:New Question....For LEAF owners who charge to 80% regularly...how many miles does does your dashboard read when you first start out driving the car after the charge... 80 miles, 75 miles available? Curious to find out.
Maybe they mean capacity bars. The two sets of bars can be confusing.turbo2ltr said:If you have 12 battery bars, then you didn't charge to 80%.
Which lottery is giving money away, I want $1K?leafwing said:dsh said:New Question....For LEAF owners who charge to 80% regularly...how many miles does does your dashboard read when you first start out driving the car after the charge... 80 miles, 75 miles available? Curious to find out.
GOM was 73 miles in D, 83 miles in Eco mode this morning (please remember that I lost one capacity bar one month ago; on 7-5-2012, a day after winning $1K in lottery on the fourth of July).
P.S. If you have lost any capacity bars without wining any lottery tickets, I suggest that you report it to the proper agency.
ALLWATZ said:New poster here (although I have followed site since inseption), so please be gentle. Lost a capacity bar on 8/3/12. Took it in for 1 year battery check up and told all O.K. (all 5 stars). Called Nissan (no-gas #) and was given a case # and told how to be more proactive about battery loss (very nice person but no idea about the fact how hot it gets in the Palm Springs area, hotter most days that Phoenix). I believe that Nissan has underestimated the impact of the temps on the batteries as do most of you. Info for wiki: vin#-6877, date of loss-8/3/12, mileage-9570, mfg date-6/11, purchase date-8/11, case #9137890, never quick charged or used L2-always L1 to 100%.
Decided to submit a complaint with NHTSA (no this isn't just a place for safety concerns, they also investigate defects in cars from power windows to heaters and such). I consider this issue to be a defect. If the cars in hot weather climates do not perform as well as the cars in other climates (and we were not told of this), that is a defect. As far as the comments of time left at high SOC, 100% vs 80% charge, QCs per week and all, Nissan has given me a report card (battery test) that shows 5 stars across the board. Their indications to me is that I am doing everything to spec and above (when I used to get all As in school, I usually passed the class). Complaint #10469729, submitted on 8/8/12, will be available to view in 72 hrs. I do think this a step everyone who has had capacity bar loss should take (https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false.
Also, submitted an inquiry to Consumer Reports on 8/8/12 with the same concerns. If this a car they are going to review, they should investigate it completely, and this is also a form I would suggest everyone fill out (http://custhelp.consumerreports.org/app/ask" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false. This can be a little confusing (in fourth line click on Non-Consumer Reports product or services, click again for Share an experience and then click again on Defective but non hazardous).
EdmondLeaf said:Which lottery is giving money away, I want $1K?leafwing said:dsh said:New Question....For LEAF owners who charge to 80% regularly...how many miles does does your dashboard read when you first start out driving the car after the charge... 80 miles, 75 miles available? Curious to find out.
GOM was 73 miles in D, 83 miles in Eco mode this morning (please remember that I lost one capacity bar one month ago; on 7-5-2012, a day after winning $1K in lottery on the fourth of July).
P.S. If you have lost any capacity bars without wining any lottery tickets, I suggest that you report it to the proper agency.
TonyWilliams said:Let's see, if I drive my Nissan gasoline car to empty, is there damage? Are there warnings in the owner's manual? Are there warranty disclaimers for such activity?
Should somebody buy serial number 2244, it's a great car that will no doubt work just fine for most folks driving within its range limits.
Same here.keydiver said:80% is usually only 10 bars. 100% is 12 bars.
I normally charge to 80%, and I see 10 bars, and 83 miles typically in ECO mode.
ALLWATZ said:Called Nissan (no-gas #)
NHTSA Complaint #10469729 (https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false.
Consumer Reports on 8/8/12 (http://custhelp.consumerreports.org/app/ask" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
cwerdna said:As much as I think complaints should be submitted (to the proper place), I don't think NHTSA is the right place to submit capacity loss complaints. When you click on "Begin online form", you're taken to https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/index.xhtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; which has a title "File a Vehicle Safety Complaint".ALLWATZ said:Decided to submit a complaint with NHTSA (no this isn't just a place for safety concerns, they also investigate defects in cars from power windows to heaters and such). I consider this issue to be a defect.
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I do think this a step everyone who has had capacity bar loss should take (https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false.
If you have something to the contrary on safercar.gov or NHTSA's site that says something to the contrary, please post the URL.
TonyWilliams said:ALLWATZ said:Called Nissan (no-gas #)
NHTSA Complaint #10469729 (https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false.
Consumer Reports on 8/8/12 (http://custhelp.consumerreports.org/app/ask" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
Fantastic post. Thanks!
ALLWATZ said:Thank you, and by the way, I don't want to come off as someone who is sorry they bought a Leaf. I really like the car and want it to be a viable mode of transportaton. .
URLs to some of the inquiries? Again per https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;,ALLWATZ said:cwerdna said:As much as I think complaints should be submitted (to the proper place), I don't think NHTSA is the right place to submit capacity loss complaints. When you click on "Begin online form", you're taken to https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/index.xhtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; which has a title "File a Vehicle Safety Complaint".ALLWATZ said:Decided to submit a complaint with NHTSA (no this isn't just a place for safety concerns, they also investigate defects in cars from power windows to heaters and such). I consider this issue to be a defect.
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I do think this a step everyone who has had capacity bar loss should take (https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false.
If you have something to the contrary on safercar.gov or NHTSA's site that says something to the contrary, please post the URL.
Yes they investigate all kinds of issues relating to defects. The previous page on the site, under File a Complaint, (https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false shows that this is the Office of Defects Investigation. If you were to look at some of the inquiries, they are of all types not just safety related.
When you get to the form at https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/index.xhtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, again, it says SAFETY at the top. If you click on the Help link, it also says "Filing a Vehicle Safety Complaint... You can use the Vehicle Safety Complaint form to register a safety complaint about your vehicle."Why your complaint is important
Your complaint information will be entered into NHTSA-ODI's vehicle owner's complaint database and used with other complaints to determine if a safety-related defect trend exists. More...
If a safety-related defect exists in a motor vehicle or item of motor vehicle equipment, the manufacturer must provide a remedy at no cost to the owner. Your complaint is the first step in the process.
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DesertDenizen said:My car test at 85% capacity remaining.
I still have 3 bars missing, 48 miles on the Mileage Guess-O-Meter,
with AC @ 100% charge. The car said it was 88 degrees when I picked it up, 93 when I got home.
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