DaveinOlyWA
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jdcbomb said:Wish they would have upgraded the L2 charging port to 7.2 (or 9) at least...must have required reconfiguration of other charging components...
Agreed. 11½ hours on L2 is not attractive.
jdcbomb said:Wish they would have upgraded the L2 charging port to 7.2 (or 9) at least...must have required reconfiguration of other charging components...
DaveinOlyWA said:jdcbomb said:Wish they would have upgraded the L2 charging port to 7.2 (or 9) at least...must have required reconfiguration of other charging components...
Agreed. 11½ hours on L2 is not attractive.
alozzy said:DaveinOlyWA said:jdcbomb said:Wish they would have upgraded the L2 charging port to 7.2 (or 9) at least...must have required reconfiguration of other charging components...
Agreed. 11½ hours on L2 is not attractive.
I suppose, but I would guess that most people will not be charging from a low SOC to full very often. I would guess that the only time the vast majority of owners would do that is on long road trips, in which case they can DCQC instead.
I made an argument in another thread that the depth of discharge for a typical 62 kWh e-Plus LEAF will likely be pretty low (i.e. 20-25%) for most owners, leading to slower degradation and many more charging cycles over the lifetime of the pack. After all, most people do the majority of their driving while commuting to/from work...
alozzy said:I made an argument in another thread that the depth of discharge for a typical 62 kWh e-Plus LEAF will likely be pretty low (i.e. 20-25%) for most owners, leading to slower degradation and many more charging cycles over the lifetime of the pack. After all, most people do the majority of their driving while commuting to/from work...
golfcart said:alozzy said:I made an argument in another thread that the depth of discharge for a typical 62 kWh e-Plus LEAF will likely be pretty low (i.e. 20-25%) for most owners, leading to slower degradation and many more charging cycles over the lifetime of the pack. After all, most people do the majority of their driving while commuting to/from work...
I was talking about that with my wife and I agree with you completely. One part of me thinks just DC quick charge twice a week to 80% at the dealership for free and save myself about $2000 over 5 years in electricity costs. And the other part of me says just plug it in at home as needed to keep it between 30% and 70% all of the time. Either way, it would rarely be at a high state of charge and would go through a lot less full cycles than my Gen1... probably the only time I'd charge it higher than 80% is on an out of town trip (which would be extremely rare in the Leaf).
I spoke to a Nissan rep from Japan at CES and confirmed the OBC is still 6.6 kW.DaveinOlyWA said:jdcbomb said:Wish they would have upgraded the L2 charging port to 7.2 (or 9) at least...must have required reconfiguration of other charging components...
Agreed. 11½ hours on L2 is not attractive.
cwerdna said:I spoke to a Nissan rep from Japan at CES and confirmed the OBC is still 6.6 kW.DaveinOlyWA said:jdcbomb said:Wish they would have upgraded the L2 charging port to 7.2 (or 9) at least...must have required reconfiguration of other charging components...
Agreed. 11½ hours on L2 is not attractive.
Anyone want me to ask any questions not covered in the press already before the show ends today at 4? This is assuming he’s still around.
The worker I spoke to previously (not from Japan) didn’t know and clearly wasn’t a Leaf driver.
cwerdna said:^^^
That might be tough. He may not know US marketing specific stuff.
He couldn’t comment on US e+ pricing (other than Japanese pricing which is already known) and it’s possible that even if he knew, he might not be allowed to say.
I couldn't find the Japanese guy again. Unfortunately, MNL went down after you asked.DaveinOlyWA said:Yeah Details on Nissan Energy. Is it standard or part of an options package?
Is it available on all trims?
How much is it?
Other than two way charging, is there any other functions ?
Is there any accessories specific to that function that is/will be available?
That's a lot for the range bump. But, what got my eye more than anything, is that Nissan is finally taking performance seriously. 200+ electric horsepower in car of this size officially moves the Leaf out of "peppy" territory into "quick" territory.cwerdna said:Hope this hasn't been posted already.
Nissan Announces LEAF e+ Prices For Europe And Japan
https://insideevs.com/nissan-announces-leaf-e-price-europe-japan/
Also, if you go to https://www3.nissan.co.jp/vehicles/new/leaf/specifications.html, you can click between the two versions to see the Japanese price difference between the various trims. Google makes for a good currency converter.
G trim (highest except for Nismo) 40 kWh is 3,999,240 yen.
e+ G trim 62 kWh is 4,729,320 yen.
Difference is 730,080 yen. Googling for 730080 jpy in usd currently returns about $6,759 USD.
EatsShootsandLeafs said:[That's a lot for the range bump. But, what got my eye more than anything, is that Nissan is finally taking performance seriously. 200+ electric horsepower in car of this size officially moves the Leaf out of "peppy" territory into "quick" territory.
I actually want a Leaf again, for the first time in years. Don't love the form factor (at all), but the rest is compelling.
OrientExpress said:Here is an interesting tidbit about the LEAF Plus. Its motor is the same as in the regular LEAF, but has a more aggressive controller that gives it more power. This appears to be the same motor controller used in the Nismo variant of the LEAF in Japan, and that is available in the JDM as an accessory. It's not inconceivable that if the Nismo accessories were available in the US, that you could tune your current LEAF to have the added HP of the Plus model.
golfcart said:EatsShootsandLeafs said:[That's a lot for the range bump. But, what got my eye more than anything, is that Nissan is finally taking performance seriously. 200+ electric horsepower in car of this size officially moves the Leaf out of "peppy" territory into "quick" territory.
I actually want a Leaf again, for the first time in years. Don't love the form factor (at all), but the rest is compelling.
I am stoked about the 214hp as well. IMO the added range, horsepower, and torque combined with DC quick charging and phone integration being standard make a decent case for an S plus. Nissan bundles the 240V compatible EVSE with the 2019 "Charge Package (S)" for $1590 so you are already up to about $32k+ MSRP if you want a 40kWh leaf S with QC capabilities. Considering most of us want QC, I look at it more like an $3 - $4k more to get 65hp, 75 miles of range, and android auto...
As I've said it before many times, I'm highly skeptical about all the Kona EV and Niro EV buzz until we see the vehicles available widely in the US and in quantity, not the near vaporware So Cal only status of the Ioniq EV.Kieran973 said:Unless Nissan is thinking is that the Kona Electric is a compliance vehicle that, over the next two years, will only sell a couple hundred models in Southern California and therefore won't really be a competitor? Fair enough, but this was the Ioniq EV's story between 2017-2019,....
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