Pretty silly. That is too much for an SV let alone a loaded S. Tsowens set the standard with his $5200 deal on the basic S model at Sunnyvale, and that was on the exact same 24 month, 15k deal. It was $4805 before adding the $395 disposition fee into the equation. I don't think the charger package is worth $2000 more to a 2 year lessee! Sunnyvale and Boardwalk have over 200 Leafs in stock. My advice is to walk away and live to fight another day. Another option is to do what I did when I got the Boardwalk runaround on the Internet last year - go over to the sleepy Premier Nissan in San Jose and work a deal on one of their 27 in stock. Tell them you a sweet deal going with their competitor (they hate Sunnyvale - the two won't even trade cars) and you're ready to lease NOW. They have far less foot traffic and I found them motivated to move cars, hence the deal I got on mine. Or just wait. Local supply on Leafs is huge. A few slow days or weeks and they all will be dealing again like madmen.will14 said:It seems the email strategy is not working well for me. I sent request to Boardwalk Nissan and Nissan Sunnyvale. I just received lukewarm reply, and they are not willing to give quote. The latest reply from Boardwalk is getting even funny. He said they sold 11 leafs today and:
"Lastly, we have meet our sales goals for the month and this weekend is just helping people like yourself who want the best deal at the best time..."
The Nissan Sunnyvale finally gave me a quote:
Nissan Leaf S with charger package
MSRP: $31,420
Sunnyvale Internet Price: $29,929
Rebate: $7500
Driveoff: $3800
Payment: $135 a month plus tax
Term: 24 months with 15,000 miles a year
Looks like not a good deal, right? Total will be 3800 + 135 x 23 = $6905.
Tomorrow is the last day of Nissan's lease promotion. I wonder if the leaf is really that hot at the moment.
aat167 said:Sunnyvale Nissan is pushing me to close the deal by tomorrow due to Sales tax increase going into effect from April 1. Its just another tactic to close the deal.
You make some good points, but how do you calculate cost of battery replacement when Nissan refuses to publish the price ?tallgirl said:That said, a lease can be a great way to get into a car, make sure you like it (and the technology), then re-finance the residual in 2 or 3 years. But from a straight-up economics standpoint? Horrible, horrible deal. Price in a replacement battery in 6 years and compute total cost of ownership over 12 years and there's no way 6 consecutive leases costs less than a purchase. Even with that replacement battery thrown in.
Wontonsoup, congratulations! You had said you would post your deal numbers when you got your lease and I was waiting to see them. Glad to to see you got your car. Did you get the color you wanted?wantonsoup said:Check out an Autonation dealer - they're doing great deals right on their website (below invoice) and got me a great deal on a lease. I did the whole deal over email and went in yesterday, took 15 minutes to sign the papers and go.
You're right about the first Internet contact. You normally get highballed and told to come in. Or occasionally lowballed and told to come in. I got lucky last year - after being abused by an experienced Internet sales manager at Boardwalk, I caught one who had only been in the car business about a month at Premier and worked a great deal within a a week by email and picked up the car. There are so many variables in playing this game. I have nothing against Boardwalk. I know from experience that thy could just as easily be the white knight next time around. Never let emotion enter into your decisions or close any doors. Kind of like life.DaveinOlyWA said:would be shocked to see a decent price via first contact email. you should be able to go in, show them you are a serious buyer (keep in mind, less than 10% of emails generate sales and THEY know it) then give them YOUR terms.
i would tell them you will give them $2500 cash plus the $135 a month and free tire rotations every 5,000 miles. Tell them you have provided the exact same terms via email to 3 other dealers and you came here first because you heard they were more customer service oriented.
pcx999 said:I picked up a Leaf S with charge package in the bay area.
VPP
24 month
$205/month
0 down
15k miles
thanks to this board!
Even adding in the $1000 for the VPP, it's only 19 cpm. Pretty damn good!DaveinOlyWA said:pcx999 said:I picked up a Leaf S with charge package in the bay area.
VPP
24 month
$205/month
0 down
15k miles
thanks to this board!
WOW! great deal!
Ok, this is great news. It would confirm that Tsowens recent S deal is matchable. Can you confirm that this is without any other taxes or other charges, what dealership and when you picked up the car? A lot of people here in NorCal want to know.pcx999 said:I picked up a Leaf S with charge package in the bay area.
VPP
24 month
$205/month
0 down
15k miles
thanks to this board!
pcx999 said:I picked up a Leaf S with charge package in the bay area.
VPP
24 month
$205/month
0 down
15k miles
thanks to this board!
KJD said:You make some good points, but how do you calculate cost of battery replacement when Nissan refuses to publish the price ?tallgirl said:That said, a lease can be a great way to get into a car, make sure you like it (and the technology), then re-finance the residual in 2 or 3 years. But from a straight-up economics standpoint? Horrible, horrible deal. Price in a replacement battery in 6 years and compute total cost of ownership over 12 years and there's no way 6 consecutive leases costs less than a purchase. Even with that replacement battery thrown in.
I appreciate and agree with your general disdain for leases from a pure economic standpoint, and I will go a step further to say that most people are very poor at negotiating them. That said, whether to lease or buy always depends on the lease deal you can negotiate and an individuals needs and wants, and in the case of EVs whether it is ever wise to purchase a car in its evolutionary stages. That is why I value this forum so much. It helped me get a great deal on my 2012 Leaf lease and will help on the second one I will be leasing in June when I'll need another car. I found out through this this forum that I will qualify for VPP and customer loyalty discounts, and that is huge. In the meantime, I'm here to try to help others and at the same time keep tabs on the lease market for myself.tallgirl said:Another thing is that leases are generally not a good idea. Sure, they sound good because you have a low monthly cost, but that's only true while you're leasing. Once you're done with that low monthly lease price, you have no car. I paid $25K 11 years ago for my Pontiac and once it was paid off, I owned the car and I drove it for another 7 years. It's only major required repair right now is power steering and it should be good for at least a 2 or 3 year least term (just saying) worth of driving.
That said, a lease can be a great way to get into a car, make sure you like it (and the technology), then re-finance the residual in 2 or 3 years. But from a straight-up economics standpoint? Horrible, horrible deal. Price in a replacement battery in 6 years and compute total cost of ownership over 12 years and there's no way 6 consecutive leases costs less than a purchase. Even with that replacement battery thrown in.
Ok, this is great news. It would confirm that Tsowens recent S deal is matchable. Can you confirm that this is without any other taxes or other charges, what dealership and when you picked up the car? A lot of people here in NorCal, including aat167 who is negotiating with Sunnyvale right now on the same car, need to know. Even if one doesn't qualify for VPP, the info has value.evnow said:pcx999 said:I picked up a Leaf S with charge package in the bay area.
VPP
24 month
$205/month
0 down
15k miles
thanks to this board!
Yes - this is the kind of price to expect in a VPP deal (guessing this includes tax, registration, title etc).
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