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Re: Are there 2022 leafs for sale in the US?

BeyondBeLeaf wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:03 pm I say go for broke and just get one of these guys.... https://www.lucidmotors.com/
“Go for broke” is indeed the correct phrasing. Very nice vehicle, very nice pricing. At least Elon can afford one should he choose so.
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DougWantsALeaf wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:00 pm Is it difficult to import one from the US?
No idea. Not sure if one would be able to get the EV credit if they did. It’s usually done by the dealer.

EV’s of every type are in short supply here. Except Mach E’s. Lots of them on lots here. Weird
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SalisburySam wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:44 am
BeyondBeLeaf wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:03 pm I say go for broke and just get one of these guys.... https://www.lucidmotors.com/
“Go for broke” is indeed the correct phrasing. Very nice vehicle, very nice pricing. At least Elon can afford one should he choose so.

That's the price of entry. I'm trying to see how life is with the Leaf before I put all my eggs in the EV basket. Up until recently I was working from home which made things easier. Living in the Dallas/Fort Worth area where everything is spread out, I hate the idea of having to charge daily, but some job sites may make that a reality.
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BeyondBeLeaf wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:50 am
SalisburySam wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:44 am
BeyondBeLeaf wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:03 pm I say go for broke and just get one of these guys.... https://www.lucidmotors.com/
“Go for broke” is indeed the correct phrasing. Very nice vehicle, very nice pricing. At least Elon can afford one should he choose so.

That's the price of entry. I'm trying to see how life is with the Leaf before I put all my eggs in the EV basket. Up until recently I was working from home which made things easier. Living in the Dallas/Fort Worth area where everything is spread out, I hate the idea of having to charge daily, but some job sites may make that a reality.
The LEAF is a great gateway drug to EV ownership, and it was for me back in 2012; it convinced me there was something real about owning and using an EV. The pathetic range and huge degradation of that range of course killed any hope of using it as an only vehicle along with the non-existent charging network at the time. Half a decade later that changed with the 300+-mile range of the Tesla Model 3, the Supercharger network, and the excellent range longevity so that today my Model 3 is almost the only vehicle. I’ve retained my 2012 LEAF SL because (1) I like to drive it, and (2) it is superb for around-town errands as long as I don’t get beyond 15 miles of returning home. Today’s LEAFs have a more suitable range for daily drivers and the Ariya, for example, is supposed to have a new system to manage battery temperatures to mitigate degradation in addition to leveraging the improvements in batteries since 2012.

I’ve enjoyed a no-gas-station life since mid-2018 with the exceptions of filling my 1-gallon gas can for legacy lawn equipment and even that is slowly being replaced with battery-powered equipment. My pressure washer is the only ICE tool remaining.

Enjoy your LEAF life!
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Re: Are there 2022 leafs for sale in the US?

SalisburySam wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:58 am
BeyondBeLeaf wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:50 am
SalisburySam wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:44 am
“Go for broke” is indeed the correct phrasing. Very nice vehicle, very nice pricing. At least Elon can afford one should he choose so.

That's the price of entry. I'm trying to see how life is with the Leaf before I put all my eggs in the EV basket. Up until recently I was working from home which made things easier. Living in the Dallas/Fort Worth area where everything is spread out, I hate the idea of having to charge daily, but some job sites may make that a reality.
The LEAF is a great gateway drug to EV ownership, and it was for me back in 2012; it convinced me there was something real about owning and using an EV. The pathetic range and huge degradation of that range of course killed any hope of using it as an only vehicle along with the non-existent charging network at the time. Half a decade later that changed with the 300+-mile range of the Tesla Model 3, the Supercharger network, and the excellent range longevity so that today my Model 3 is almost the only vehicle. I’ve retained my 2012 LEAF SL because (1) I like to drive it, and (2) it is superb for around-town errands as long as I don’t get beyond 15 miles of returning home. Today’s LEAFs have a more suitable range for daily drivers and the Ariya, for example, is supposed to have a new system to manage battery temperatures to mitigate degradation in addition to leveraging the improvements in batteries since 2012.

I’ve enjoyed a no-gas-station life since mid-2018 with the exceptions of filling my 1-gallon gas can for legacy lawn equipment and even that is slowly being replaced with battery-powered equipment. My pressure washer is the only ICE tool remaining.

Enjoy your LEAF life!
The battery degradation is the part that worries me long term. In the short term, it's how long it takes to charge the battery. I'm also a little disappointed with the cost per mile. I think I've logged about 900 miles thus far and the charging station I've been using has already charged me about $120 since I started charging. My full-sized Titan would give me about 450 miles in range for about $80, so I'm not seeing the kind of savings that I had hoped I would.
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BeyondBeLeaf wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:57 am The battery degradation is the part that worries me long term. In the short term, it's how long it takes to charge the battery. I'm also a little disappointed with the cost per mile. I think I've logged about 900 miles thus far and the charging station I've been using has already charged me about $120 since I started charging. My full-sized Titan would give me about 450 miles in range for about $80, so I'm not seeing the kind of savings that I had hoped I would.
I think the ROI for EVs will be highest if you can charge at home, especially if your utility provides lower rates for super off peak hours (ie midnight to 9am etc). I almost exclusively charge at home and my total estimated cost of charging for 3900 miles of driving is about $80 so far. I had 3 DCFC charges so far all on EvGO which provides a $250 credit to all new LEAF owners. Did you receive yours? That might help a little too.
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Likely typical in Texas is buying energy at a fixed rate of about 11 cents/kWh +/- 2 cents, the cost of energy for the 900 miles would be around $20-25 - requiring charging at home. Charge stations will be a completely different cost for sure.
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BeyondBeLeaf wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:57 am I'm also a little disappointed with the cost per mile. I think I've logged about 900 miles thus far and the charging station I've been using has already charged me about $120 since I started charging. My full-sized Titan would give me about 450 miles in range for about $80, so I'm not seeing the kind of savings that I had hoped I would.
What have your charging habits been? You said in the other post that, "My complex charges $1 per hour for the first 4 hours and $2 for hours after 4." If you can charge 4 hours at a time, it's $0.17/kWh. Driving 900 miles should only cost you about $50. Maybe you can set your car's charging schedule to stop 3:50 from now?
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BeyondBeLeaf wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:57 am I think I've logged about 900 miles thus far and the charging station I've been using has already charged me about $120 since I started charging.
DC charging is expensive. L2 charging tends to be much cheaper -- around 1/4.
I charge at home from solar (PV) and pay about 0.5 ¢ a mile. That same 900 miles is about $4.5 for me.
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SageBrush wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:38 pm
BeyondBeLeaf wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:57 am I think I've logged about 900 miles thus far and the charging station I've been using has already charged me about $120 since I started charging.
DC charging is expensive. L2 charging tends to be much cheaper -- around 1/4.
I charge at home from solar (PV) and pay about 0.5 ¢ a mile. That same 900 miles is about $4.5 for me.
How do you get down to 2 cents/KWH? The last set of panels I installed (9KW) came out to $9600 after rebates even with me doing all the labor. My amortized cost over 25 years with 15,000 KWH annual production comes out to 2.56 cents/KWH. The first set I had installed 10 years ago (also 9KW) cost double that even after all the rebates. Still, even at 5 cents/KWH it's 1/8 of what SDG&E currently charges. My amortized cost is about $1200 annually. That's less than a 1/10 of what SDG&E would charge me for the amount of power I use. The panels have more than paid for themselves over the years so my power is essentially free at this point,

DC charging is very expensive but rarely necessary and charging at home is so cheap that I don't even think about the cost. If I didn't have solar it would cost me about $120/mo. That's still cheaper than buying gas and a lot more convenient as well.
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