coolorangecat
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I ordered Red Line 58204 Heavy ShockProof Gear Oil. Will this oil be fine to use in the reduction gear on my 2012 Leaf?
Even RedLine's "SuperLight" version of their racing ShockProof Gear Oil group has a kv100 twice that of a Nissan Matic S (Dexron VI). The SuperLight would work, with about a 2% or so loss in range though. Use the "Heavy" version and you'd get around a 5% loss in range, no kidding, very thick stuff. The other problem with using Racing gear oils is the longevity & corroson resistance, not something they cover in racing applications.coolorangecat said:I ordered Red Line 58204 Heavy ShockProof Gear Oil. Will this oil be fine to use in the reduction gear on my 2012 Leaf?
That's right basically. The involute helical gears aren't very sensitive to what level of friction modifiers are in the ATF fluid, something conventional automatic transmissions need for their specific clutch materials & pressures. The gear faces do squirm a little when hit with forces, but it's small rubbing compared to things like piston rings, cam lobes, AT clutches, all we don't have of course.Nubo said:As I understand it, most of the magic underlying the myriad of different ATF specs, has to do with friction modifiers. Since there's absolutely no shifting going on, I doubt if any of it matters for LEAF. That said, I know my doubts don't constitute facts and so I did choose the Redline D6
You can't go wrong no matter what you choose, especially with non-severe-service.SageBrush said:......rarely drives more than 20 miles at a time
It is a bit experimental to NOT use Nissan Matic S. That is the official position, and certainly safe.Jpc said:If I go to the Nissan dealer to change the oil, will they use Matic S oil? Do you recommend me to change that oil at the dealership?
Picky does not describe me -- paranoid about a leak does. :lol:voltamps said:Some of us are picky about making sure we use new crush washers for better sealing, cleaning off the magnetic drain plugs, and torquing the plugs perfectly. Otherwise, a technician in a hurry can toss some in there for a huge fee. All depends on if you have DIY experience changing oil, SAFELY jacking up (jackstands mandatory) or driving up ramps, etc. It's easy but requires some skill.
A Nissan dealer will only use oil spec'd for the car (Matic S). I know because I asked; that's why I went to an independent repair shop/garage (same one I did my battery pack swap with) so I could use Valvoline ULV (documented extensively here in another thread). I brought my own (couple quarts of) oil and the 2 new gaskets (purchased at a Nissan) dealer; the magnetic plugs can be cleaned and re-used.Jpc said:If I go to the Nissan dealer to change the oil, will they use Matic S oil? Do you recommend me to change that oil at the dealership?
The post directly above yours (namely mine) spells out exactly what you need: 2 gaskets!Jim74656 said:I have a 2017 LEAF, and I am considering doing the first gearbox change (only has 40k on it) and read through the whole thread, and been trying to figure out if Lucas products or AMSOil products like the Lucas 80W 90 gearbox oil would work or if ATF would be the better option for the Matic-S thing we got, however neither seem to say if they are matic-S safe/compliant.
also are there any other things I should grab such as gaskets, seals, ect before doing the change? I don't want to start the process then need to go get something and be stuck with out my only vehicle (yes I daily my leaf) so any help would be appreciated, I read through the whole thread so far, and so far I suspect I need to get a few seals?
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