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I'm not sure what to split. Just start a new topic.GRA said:See my question in the immediately preceding post.
I'm not sure what to split. Just start a new topic.GRA said:See my question in the immediately preceding post.
LeftieBiker said:Toyota and Subaru clearly want to sell an EV that screams "I'm just a compliance car! Any other Toyota/Subaru would be better!
Official: Toyota's $7,500 Federal Tax Credit Phaseout Is Underwaygcrouse said:I think you're probably right on the models not likely to be huge sellers but i think that will be on part due to lackluster corporate and dealer support. For what it's worth something like the Subaru would be right up my alley down the road if my financials are in order. The Subaru model will still have the tax credits and Toyota is danger close to phase out so it seems like the only reason to buy the Toyota model over the Subaru is if Subaru doesn't have any dealers in the area.
+1 as a Toyota owner both past and present I totally agree. Toyota would rather spend their money and attention on the pie-in-the-sky fuel cell products than something here and now like EVs and I personally don't like it!LeftieBiker said:Maybe they've developed an alloy for bolts that can't stay tightened. Kind of a long way to go to avoid selling lots of EVs, but this is Toyota after all - the second worst EV-hating manufacturer after...I wanna say "Stella D'oro"...
https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2023/TOYOTA/BZ4X#recalls under associated docs (currently at 9) are the publicly accessible docs Toyota has uploaded so far about this recall.LeftieBiker said:So they don't have a fix for loosening wheel studs? You really can't parody stuff like this.
Although Stellantis AFAIK no longer has any BEVs in the US (e.g. gen 2 Fiat 500e didn't make it to the US (yet?)), now that they've combined w/PSA Groupe, they do have a bunch of BEVs, just not sold in the US.LeftieBiker said:Maybe they've developed an alloy for bolts that can't stay tightened. Kind of a long way to go to avoid selling lots of EVs, but this is Toyota after all - the second worst EV-hating manufacturer after...I wanna say "Stella D'oro"...
In the first half, Stellantis sold 105,413 full-electric cars in Europe, just behind VW Group, which sold 116,307, and ahead of Tesla, which recorded 78,277 sales, according to figures from data provider Dataforce.
The figures include registrations in EU countries plus the UK, Switzerland, Iceland and Norway. Data from Portugal, Sweden and Finland were not available.
Stellantis’ push in Europe was led by the Fiat New 500 small hatchback, which was the best-selling full-electric car in Western Europe in the second quarter, according to analyst Matthias Schmidt. It was the first time that honor did not go to a Tesla model since the last quarter of 2020, Schmidt said.
The New 500 was the best-selling full-electric car in Italy and Germany in the second quarter, Tavares told investors. Another key Stellantis electric model was the Peugeot e-208 small car, which took the top EV spot in France in the same period, he said.
LeftieBiker said:So they don't have a fix for loosening wheel studs? You really can't parody stuff like this.
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