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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:55 pm

GCC:
Mercedes-Benz’ Lab1886 supporting Rolls-Royce Power Systems in pilot project for stationary fuel-cell systems
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/1 ... b1886.html

. . . Over the coming months, Rolls-Royce will develop a holistic concept for future sustainable and independent emergency power supply under its MTU product and solutions brand based on automotive fuel cells. It is intended primarily for safety-critical areas of application such as data centers—an area which today is covered by conventional engines.

The project is already in the development phase. Construction of plants for the pilot project is planned to begin at the start of next year.

Mercedes-Benz cites the project as a prime example of the symbiosis of battery and fuel-cell technology and a key step on the road to CO2 neutrality. . . .
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:04 pm

Both GCC:
Hydro-Québec will support the clean hydrogen sector in Québec
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/1 ... uebec.html

Hydro-Québec operates some 60 hydroelectric generating stations, making it one of the largest hydroelectricity producers in the world. Decarbonizing the economy to reduce greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions is one of the company’s priorities. . . .

Hydro-Québec’s Strategic Plan 2020–2024 outlines five applications for clean hydrogen:
  • Ammonia and methanol production
    Heating buildings
    Road and trail transportation
    Carbon-netural synthetic hydrocarbon fuels
    Renewable natural gas
In November, Hydro-Québec published a snapshot of its energy resources which presents the company’s forecasts regarding its future electricity needs and the means by which it will meet them. Although demand will increase in Québec, the company will continue to have a major surplus of available electricity.

Overall, Hydro-Québec can count on over 40 terawatthours (TWh) of available energy annually over the coming years. With this energy, it will be able to power Québec’s economic development while boosting its contribution to the decarbonization of neighboring markets by signing new long-term export contracts. The company’s energy reserves are stored in its 28 large reservoirs, which can accumulate 176 TWh. . . .

In 2015, the electricity produced in Québec accounted for 32% of Canada’s total power generated from all sources, but was responsible for only 1% of GHG emissions linked to electric utilities.

Overall, GHG emissions from Québec hydropower (run-of-river generating stations and generating stations with reservoirs) are similar to those from wind, five times lower than those from photovoltaic solar, 50 times lower than those from natural gas-fired plants and 70 times lower than those from coal-fired plants.
ENGIE selects Plug Power for refueling system for hydrogen-powered mine truck; 1 tonne H2/day
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/1 ... power.html

ENGIE, a global energy and services company, has selected Plug Power Inc. to provide a custom refueling system for the world’s largest hydrogen-powered mine haul truck (300 metric ton load capacity), which is set to begin operation next year. . . .

ENGIE is working with Anglo American, a global mining company, to develop a renewable hydrogen production and refueling solution to support a new hydrogen-powered mine haul vehicle that will be tested at one of its South African platinum mines. . . .

To support the refueling project, Plug Power has been tasked with building a full compression, storage, and dispensing system to service the new hydrogen-powered vehicle.

Plug Power’s system will be the first of its kind, and the largest refueling system built by the company to-date, with an expected output of 1,000 kg per day.

First fueling and motion of the hydrogen powered truck is expected in 2020, followed by a testing and validation program at Anglo American’s Mogalakwena Platinum Group Metals mine in South Africa, after which additional trucks are expected to be rolled out at other Anglo American operations. . . .

I previously posted a link to a GCC article describing the truck itself in the "AFV Truck/Commercial Vehicle and non-BEV bus" topic.
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:32 pm

GCC:
Ballard and HDF Energy sign development agreement for multi-megawatt fuel cell systems
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/1 ... llard.html


Ballard Power Systems has signed a product development agreement with Hydrogene de France (HDF Energy), an independent power producer dedicated to renewable power generation, for the development and integration of a multi-megawatt (MW) scale fuel cell system into HDF Energy’s Renewstable power plant designed for stationary power applications.

HDF Energy’s Renewstable power plant is a multi-MW baseload system enabling large-scale storage of intermittent renewable wind or solar energy in the form of hydrogen through the process of electrolysis as well as electricity generation using that hydrogen feedstock together with a fuel cell system. This power plant can produce zero-emission power on a 24/7 basis from intermittent renewable energy, in order to support electrical grids.
  • Under the Development Agreement, we are planning for two phases of work. The first phase involves the design, build and supply of two next-generation MW-scale containerized stationary PEM fuel cell systems totaling 3-megawatts, based on our new high-durability LCS fuel cell stack [earlier post]. Second, after HDF Energy incorporates these systems into their Renewstable power plant in an initial project, we plan to proceed with a technology transfer program to enable HDF Energy to assemble these fuel cell systems for global market sales of their Renewstable power plants.

    —Kevin Colbow, Ballard Chief Technology Officer
In the initial HDF Energy project, an installation is planned in French Guiana, an overseas department and region of France located off the northern Atlantic coast of South America, under the Centrale Electricité de l’Ouest Guyanais (CEOG) project. The project will involve 90MWh of energy storage from hydrogen, representing a first for the fuel cell industry. . . .

We'll want comparable cost data once this and similar dem/val systems are up and running, but H2 storage to provide dispatchable RE over longer periods of time than is likely economic for batteries (assuming they could even be produced in the necessary quantities) is probably an essential requirement to get to 100% renewables, as compressed air storage is unlikely to be available in the required volumes, there aren't enough geothermal resources, and large hydro/pumped storage has too many environmental issues to see much growth or even replacement of existing dams, even if most of the good sites outside of China, India and Brazil hadn't already been used.
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:12 pm

Here's one of the occasional posts providing a link to articles re lab research. As always with such research, usual caveats about commercialization apply, as most such research goes nowhere. The main reason I'm posting this one is the article lists current prices of the materials used in current catalysts and the newer ones. GCC:
Researchers in Australia develop low-cost water-splitting catalyst that offers comparable performance to platinum
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/1 ... yanto.html

A team of researchers in Australia has developed a Janus nanoparticle catalyst with a nickel–iron oxide interface and multi-site functionality for a highly efficient hydrogen evolution reaction with a comparable performance to the benchmark platinum on carbon catalyst. (Janus particles feature surfaces with two or more distinct properties. . . .)

Iron and nickel, which are found in abundance on Earth, would replace precious metals ruthenium, platinum and iridium that up until now are regarded as benchmark catalysts in the water-splitting process. . . .

Iron and nickel are currently priced at $0.13 and $19.65 a kilogram. By contrast, ruthenium, platinum and iridium are priced at $11.77, $42.13 and $69.58 per gram—in other words, thousands of times more expensive. . . .
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:54 pm

GCC:
Ballard receives $19.2M order from Weichai-Ballard JV for MEAs to power fuel-cell-electric vehicles in China
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/1 ... llard.html
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Re: GRA's Hydrogen and FCEVs SPAM thread

Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:09 pm

WetEV wrote:
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Could we please get a more accurate thread title here?
if you aren't interested in the subject matter, is it too difficult for you not to read it?
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Re: GRA's Hydrogen and FCEVs SPAM thread

Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:49 pm

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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:54 pm

Baked beans are off!
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:01 pm

GCC:
Ørsted and partners secure funding for H2RES project; offshore wind power to produce renewable hydrogen for road transport
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/1 ... rsted.html

Ørsted (formerly DONG Energy), Everfuel Europe A/S, NEL Hydrogen A/S, GreenHydrogen AS, DSV Panalpina A/S, Hydrogen Denmark and Energinet Elsystemansvar A/S have been awarded funding of DKK 34.6 million (US$5 million) for the H2RES project from EUDP’s second 2019 call for applications.

The partners will build a 2MW electrolysis plant with appurtenant hydrogen storage. The plant will use electricity from offshore wind turbines to produce renewable hydrogen for buses, trucks and potentially taxis.

The daily hydrogen production is expected to total around 600kg, enough to power 20-30 buses, while also making testing its use in trucks and taxis possible. The funding awarded to the H2RES project is the largest among the 53 projects which have received funding from the EUDP in this second 2019 call for applications. . . .

. . . Therefore, the H2RES project, for which Ørsted and partners have just now received funding, will be using power directly from two 3.6MW offshore wind turbines at Ørsted’s Avedøre Power Station. . . .
  • Renewable hydrogen could potentially form a cornerstone of Denmark’s ambition to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 70% in 2030 and of the transition to a world that runs entirely on green energy. Heavy road transport is one of the sectors which can be made greener by indirect electrification with hydrogen produced from renewable sources. However, renewable hydrogen is currently more expensive than hydrogen produced from gas or coal. Therefore, it’s important for us to be able to demonstrate the technology and gather experience, that will make it possible to scale up the technology and make it more efficient, so that we’ll be able to produce renewable hydrogen at a price which can compete with the price of the fossil-based alternatives.

    —Anders Nordstrøm, Vice President and Head of Ørsted’s hydrogen activities

judging by the number of announcements of same recently, wind-powered H2 electrolysis production plants seem to be proliferating fairly rapidly now, although they all remain in the dem/val phase and as noted in the article, they still need to get the costs down to compete with fossil fuels (and H2 from same).


Some of the competition, also GCC:
CARB posts 6 LCFS pathway applications for liquefied hydrogen
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/1 ... cfsh2.html

The California Air Resources Board (ARB) has recently posted six Low Carbon Fuel Standard (LCFS) Tier 2 pathways applications for the production of liquefied hydrogen from renewable and fossil gas.

  • Shell Energy North America seeks certification of a renewable hydrogen pathway produced by steam methane reformation at Air Products & Chemicals Sacramento facility using landfill gas-derived )renewable natural gas (RNG). The hydrogen is liquefied and transported by liquid tanker truck to a transfill station in Santa Clara, California, where it is gasified, compressed, and transported via tube trailer to hydrogen fueling stations for dispensing into fuel cell vehicles at stations in Northern California.

    The Carbon Intensity is calculated to be 138.90 gCO2e/MJ.

    Iwatani Corporation of America seeks certification of a fossil natural gas to liquid hydrogen pathway produced by steam methane reformation at Linde-Praxair, Ontario facility, and transported via liquefied hydrogen truck. The hydrogen is regasified at stations and dispensed in fuel cell vehicles at stations in Northern California.

    The Carbon Intensity is calculated to be 153.36 gCO2e/MJ.

    Air Liquide Hydrogen Energy seeks certification of a renewable hydrogen pathway produced by steam methane reformation at Praxair Ontario facility using biomethane (RNG) as well as North American fossil-based Natural Gas.

    The hydrogen is liquefied and transported by liquid tanker truck to a transfill station in Etiwanda, California, where it is gasified, compressed, and transported via tube trailer to hydrogen fueling stations for dispensing into fuel cell vehicles at stations in Southern California.

    The Carbon Intensity is calculated to be 136.31 gCO2e/MJ.

    Air Liquide seeks certification of two hydrogen pathways produced by steam methane reformation at Air Products & Chemicals Sacramento facility; renewable hydrogen from landfill gas using biomethane (RNG) and fossil-based hydrogen from North American Natural Gas.

    The hydrogen is liquefied and transported by liquid tanker truck to a transfill station in Santa Clara, California, where it is gasified, compressed, and transported via tube trailer to hydrogen fueling stations for dispensing into fuel cell vehicles at stations in Northern California.

    The Carbon Intensity for the RNG pathway is calculated to be 136.44 gCO2e/MJ. The Carbon Intensity for the fossil gas pathway is calculated to be 158.28 gCO2e/MJ.

    FirstElement Fuel seeks certification of a renewable hydrogen pathway produced by steam methane reformation at Air Products & Chemicals Sacramento facility using biomethane.

    The hydrogen is liquefied and transported by liquid tanker truck to a transfill station in Santa Clara, California, where it is gasified, compressed, and transported via tube trailer to hydrogen fueling stations for dispensing into fuel cell vehicles at stations in Northern California.

    The Carbon Intensity is calculated to be 131.39 gCO2e/MJ.

    Clean Future, Inc. seeks certification of a fossil natural gas to liquid hydrogen pathway produced by steam methane reformation and transported via liquefied hydrogen truck. The hydrogen is stored as a liquid on site and supplied to hydrogen forklifts.

    The Carbon Intensity is calculated to be 153.17 gCO2e/MJ.
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