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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:00 pm

GCC:
BDR Thermea Group showcases first hydrogen-powered domestic boiler
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... 8-bdr.html
The first hydrogen-powered domestic boiler was recently put into operation in a real life situation in Rozenburg, the Netherlands. The boiler was developed by BDR Thermea Group, a leading manufacturer of smart thermal comfort solutions, whose mission is developing and producing heating and hot water solutions with virtually no CO2 emissions.

The boiler burns pure hydrogen that has been produced by wind or solar energy. Gas network provider Stedin, the company that has initiated the project, is responsible for the production and supply of the sustainably produced hydrogen.

This is the first real life situation in which pure hydrogen will be used to fuel a high-efficiency condensing boiler to heat the central heating system of a residential building. The boiler was developed by BDR Thermea Group’s Research and Development (R&D) competence center in Italy. After the first pilot in the Netherlands, which is being carried out by the Group’s Dutch subsidiary Remeha, it is carrying out a larger scale field trial in the United Kingdom. New opportunities for projects in other European countries are now being explored as part of the broader, pan-European development of this technology. . . .

he Dutch project in Rozenburg is a joint initiative with network operator Stedin, the municipality of Rotterdam and housing cooperative Ressort Wonen. The hydrogen boiler will be installed in a boiler room alongside an existing conventional natural gas boiler which will ensure that the residents have sufficient heat and hot water at all times. Stedin is using an existing regular pipeline to supply the hydrogen, demonstrating that the existing gas network is suitable for carrying hydrogen. In this project, Stedin and its partners are considering the entire chain of the future: the production, distribution and conversion of hydrogen, with the ultimate aim of providing zero-carbon comfort.
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:04 pm

Ballard Power Systems purchasing B.C.’s first fleet of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles; Toyota Mirai
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... llard.html
Ballard Power Systems . . . has arranged for several Ballard employees to purchase B.C.’s first fleet of fuel cell electric vehicles (FCEVs) from Toyota Canada Inc. (TCI). Ballard employees are expected to purchase the Toyota Mirai zero-emission FCEVs powered by hydrogen in 2019, with initial vehicle deliveries completed yesterday.

Canada’s first publicly accessible retail hydrogen station opened in Vancouver last summer, with another station poised to open in Burnaby shortly. Earlier this year, Natural Resources Canada and the B.C. government announced they are contributing a combined $3 million to build two new retail hydrogen refueling stations in the province’s Lower Mainland, and it is expected that Greater Vancouver and Victoria will have a network of six stations by 2020. . . .
Also GCC:
Ceres Power & Doosan partner on solid oxide fuel cell power systems for commercial buildings
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... ceres.html
Ceres Power, a developer of low-cost, next-generation fuel cell technology and Doosan Corporation will jointly develop solid oxide fuel cell (SOFC) distributed power systems initially targeted at the Korean commercial building market.

South Korea is a leading fuel cell market and has been a core target market for Ceres. South Korea benefits from a supportive regulatory regime and ambitious long-term targets. The South Korean government recently announced several initiatives to promote increased use of renewable generation and hydrogen technology and is targeting fuel cell manufacture for power generation to reach an output of 15 GW by 2040, up from 300 MW today.

Doosan has established itself as a leader in the fuel cell industry and is now adding Solid Oxide technology to its existing portfolio of fuel cell technologies. Doosan’s existing stationary fuel cell business exceeded 1 trillion won (c. $850 million) in orders for the first time in 2018, three years after entering the market. . . .
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:34 pm

GCC:
JAXA and Toyota begin joint research into manned pressurized lunar rover
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... -jaxa.html

This will be an FCEV, as the mission durations and distances required will be way too much for a BEV, even if getting all that weight to the moon made sense. Also, as this is intended to explore the moon's polar regions and find out what water ice resources are available, the possibility exists of refueling locally via electrolysis. See my earlier post and the discussion: https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... er#p551468
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:22 pm

Both GCC:
Alpiq and H2 Energy partner on hydrogen production plant in Switzerland; to support Hyundai fuel cell trucks
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... 29-h2.html
Switzerland’s first system for the commercial production of hydrogen is planned at the Gösgen hydropower plant.

The 2 MW system is to be constructed by Hydrospider, which is owned in equal shares by Alpiq and H2 Energy. The system is to be constructed on the left bank of the Aare canal.

Hydrospider intends to produce climate-friendly hydrogen in Gösgen using electricity from 100 percent hydropower to power the first 50 of a total of 1,600 fuel cell trucks, which Hyundai Hydrogen Mobility, a joint venture between Hyundai Motors and H2 Energy, will bring onto Swiss roads by 2025. . . .
MAN Energy Solutions, Hydrogenious and Frames Group to build LOHC hydrogen storage systems
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... 8-man.html
MAN Energy Solutions, Hydrogenious LOHC Technologies and Frames Group B.V. have signed a cooperation agreement in order to jointly design and build large scale hydrogen storage systems based on the Liquid Organic Hydrogen Carrier (LOHC) technology (earlier post).

Developed by Hydrogenious, the LOHC technology uses heat transfer oil as a carrier for hydrogen, thus allowing it to be stored under ambient conditions. The process also triples the amount of hydrogen that can be transported compared to standard pressurized containers. The LOHC technology offers a safe and efficient solution for storing and distributing hydrogen on a large scale.

The new partners are preparing to meet the needs for the future hydrogen market in respect to bulk hydrogen storage and transportation. As a first step, the companies have developed systems with hydrogen capacities of 5 and 12 tons per day. . . .
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:46 pm

GCC:
ZeroAvia unveils hydrogen fuel cell powertrain for aviation
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... oavia.html

As expected, regional/commuter use up to about 500 miles is pretty much the H2/FC aviation niche, at least for now. Looking to initial deployment ca. 2022, with a Piper M-class single engine as a test mule now. Company has alumni from Tesla, BMW, Invidia, Air Liquide etc.


Also GCC:
MultiSchIBZ consortium developing SOFC APU for marine use
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... chibz.html
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:31 pm

GCC:
ARENA providing $950k in funding for renewable hydrogen production project in Queensland
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... arena.html
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:30 pm

GCC, lab results so usual caveats:
Researchers develop two-step method for efficient decoupled water splitting
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... dotan.html


See the comments for useful discussion.
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:03 pm

GCC:
Cummins invests in Loop Energy; fuel cell range extenders for medium- and heavy-duty trucks
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... -loop.html


Also GCC:
Toyota installs stationary fuel cell generator based on Mirai FC system at Honsha plant
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... 9-tmc.html


They use two complete Mirai setups, and will operate 24 hours/day generating 100kW.
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:13 pm

GCC:
Toyota and ride-pooling startup CleverShuttle travel >2M km in Germany with the Toyota Fuel Cell Sedan Mirai
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... uttle.html


2 years, 45 Mirais, 2.2M km. 15 months to reach 1st million. Started with 20 Mirais in Hamburg, then expanded to 45 and added Munich and Stuttgart.
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:28 pm

GRA wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:13 pm
GCC:
Toyota and ride-pooling startup CleverShuttle travel >2M km in Germany with the Toyota Fuel Cell Sedan Mirai
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/0 ... uttle.html


2 years, 45 Mirais, 2.2M km. 15 months to reach 1st million. Started with 20 Mirais in Hamburg, then expanded to 45 and added Munich and Stuttgart.
How was the hydrogen produced? Fossil fuels?
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