TonyWilliams
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DaveinOlyWA said:... what should Nissan do? wait until GM has that franken plug network installed at their dealerships first?
Not gunna happen.
DaveinOlyWA said:... what should Nissan do? wait until GM has that franken plug network installed at their dealerships first?
I'm not buying it - even if you only have 240V single-phase power, a simple 200A feed will get you 48 kW. But heck, even 240V/100A would be great. If 3-phase is available that makes things easier, of course.Randy said:In fact, it is my opinion that the dealerships are probably not the best place for Nissan to locate their DC FC stations. It would cost a LOT of money to install them at some of the dealer sites because of the 3-phase power requirements that may or may not exist there.
So don't install them at all dealers. But even then an on-site DCQC would be an invaluable sales tool. Even when servicing cars, it would be very useful to have a QC on site - as often customers typically have to drive out of their way to drop their car off and L2 may not be fast enough to provide sufficient range for the rest of the day's activities.Randy said:Some dealers are close to the freeways where the DC FC would be valuable, but several of the dealers are far from freeways (which may not be as ideal for DC FC).
91040 said:1/14/13 Plug In Cars
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91040 said:1/14/13 Plug In Cars
Nissan Promises Dealership-Based EV Quick Charging
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Nissan will use its own CHAdeMo-based Quick Charge equipment at dealerships.
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BEVeedom said:... Actually the SAE Combo makes sense to me and I believe it should become the standard for the industry. It's an all-in-one unit. No more optional cost DC Fast Charge port.
Switch to SAE Combo, make an adaptor for CHAdeMO to SAE Combo and get on with it.
Hint: The Chevy Spark EV, due out this summer, will have the SAE Combo as standard equipment.
jcan said:The Frankenplug VS Chademo . If we refer to the two plugs enough this way hopefully they will always be known as Frankenplug and Chademo.
TonyWilliams said:Again, I don't care what the ultimate standard is, but I do want the folks at GM to fail in their attempts to divide and diminish the electric car world....
TonyWilliams said:FrankenFew cars means FrankenFew Frankenplugs!!!
What I heard was 6 dealership installations have been allocated for the Los Angeles/OC area, with installations being completed in 60 days. We have had many DC QC promises in the last year that have yet to see any progress, so 60 days seems VERY optimistic. My Nissan dealership took 4 months just to permit, install and activate a standard AV J1772 L2.GregH said:I heard there will be 20 in SoCal by March 31st with the first going in at Santa Monica.. Not sure what the other locations will be but I hope we find out soon!
TonyWilliams said:Honestly, I hope that some bright folks somewhere are developing the next generation charging system that everybody can agree to (China, EU/UK, USA, Japan). Doubtful, though.
TEG said:TonyWilliams said:Honestly, I hope that some bright folks somewhere are developing the next generation charging system that everybody can agree to (China, EU/UK, USA, Japan). Doubtful, though.
In some parallel universe they have mandated that everyone use the Tesla Supercharger system.
Too bad we don't live there.
TonyWilliams said:TEG said:TonyWilliams said:Honestly, I hope that some bright folks somewhere are developing the next generation charging system that everybody can agree to (China, EU/UK, USA, Japan). Doubtful, though.
In some parallel universe they have mandated that everyone use the Tesla Supercharger system.
Too bad we don't live there.
At some point soon, the charge rate required / wanted will be far greater than the piece of hardware that grandma is going to plug in a car. Hence, I predict an automated setup that plugs in the bottom of the car, with it's big 1.5 inch diameter pins.
Then, nobody has to handle the extremely dangerous voltage with a heavy nozzle, and nobody will bump into it, or play with it. Heck, you won't even see it unless you crawl under the car. Just drove over the spot, the car is identified with its own wireless signal (with billing), and you get out and have a drink. When done, a message is sent to your mobile device, and you hop in the car on motor on.
1GW, here we come.
GetOffYourGas said:Or just add a Mr. Fusion, which can easily provide 1.21GW. (Hey, I can dream too)
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