drees said:
TonyWilliams said:
Yes, we already know that an 84 mile car is missing from the data...
I'm not quite sure why there's fixation on a "84 miles" when the gauges in the car can't be relied upon. To assume that a new car should have gotten 84 miles on the range test would mean that you'd have to assume that the cars accurately reported 4.0 mi/kWh (which you've said we can't) and that 84 miles is typical for a new car (which Nissan has not claimed - they have only claimed a range of 76-84 miles is typical at an efficiency of 4.0 mi/kWh).
84 miles for a new car is probable. "Black782" would have banged that out 2-3 months ago, and did PLENTY of times on my BC2BC trip. I used Nissan's data of 84 miles because I didn't have a car in the test that did it. Like I've said several times now, if Nissan wants challenge that, I will be more than happy to find one or more new cars right here in SoCal to bang out 84 miles.
My car did show exactly 4.0 miles/kWh on the outbound leg, and 3.8 inbound (I reset at the halfway point, like I've outlined previously to determine wind effects). If you look at the wind chart for 0251Z, the wind was reported from the east at 6 knots. The inbound leg was east (except the last 6 miles that is north/south.
So, again (I've said this several times), my car's data hit the predictions very well. My average economy was 3.9, and this matched all the expectations before I ever turned the car on that morning. The only unexpected surprise was not having 100% available to start. But it did in the very recent past.
So, to Nissan 76-84 mile thing. Sure, they can argue all kinds of BS, but I went 76, so I guess that meets the normal range. But, sure, and also matched my economy by 0.1 miles/kWh. But, if you don't think a car will go 84 miles, then you are not believing Nissan's own data.
A new LEAF will do it, and Nissan publishes that it can do 84 at that 4 mile economy, which is the economy that my car did (within 0.1.. the center Nav screen would shown 4.0).