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has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:16 pm

Hello all,

I tried to search the forum for this so apologize if this has been discussed.

I am ready to replace the battery on my leaf. It sucks that Nissan has jacked up the price to ~$8K.

I know there are a few third party options but they don't seem very palatable. Simon Andre is offering a software module for $1K , but I have to still find a salvage battery and a shop that will help me replace it. I have never bought anything from salvage so I am not too excited about this prospect.

Fenix power seems to be in the Carolina's . Anyone know of a third party option in California where there may be the largest number of Nissan leaf's

I may sucker up to giving Nissan $8K just because I love the car.

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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:21 pm

You seem to be asking one question in the topic title, and a different one in the post. Yes, people have indeed paid Nissan for a new, out of warranty battery. No, no one has had a Fenix battery installed yet. Your current options are either a new or used Leaf battery, or a third party extended pack to swap cargo space for some more range.
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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:29 pm

Don't worry about fenix, they will probably do a few Nissan to Nissan swaps and file for bankruptcy.
Since Nissan already has a liquid cooled leaf pack, all they have to do is start putting them in cars.
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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:56 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:21 pm
You seem to be asking one question in the topic title, and a different one in the post. Yes, people have indeed paid Nissan for a new, out of warranty battery. No, no one has had a Fenix battery installed yet. Your current options are either a new or used Leaf battery, or a third party extended pack to swap cargo space for some more range.
Were there any reports about people replacing at the current price? I know some did buy at the pre-increase price but haven't been following the forum as much lately.
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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:07 pm

Were there any reports about people replacing at the current price? I know some did buy at the pre-increase price but haven't been following the forum as much lately.

I seem to remember one or two. I don't think anyone has yet posted that they've paid significantly more than $8k, which has been quoted by a few dealers.
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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:06 am

In a private Leaf FB group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/nissan. ... 628967588/), the poster (initials PC) paid in full to get his '12 Leaf battery pack replaced. It came out to $6996.52.

He posted a picture of his receipt. Interestingly, the pack is back down to $5499. The rest of it was other parts, labor ($650 of it) and sales tax ($486.39).

It has an "R.O. OPENED" date of 12/31/19 and his invoice date is 1/7/20.

Dealer was Larry H. Miller Nissan Mesa in Arizona.

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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:20 am

cwerdna wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:06 am
... the poster (initials PC) paid in full to get his '12 Leaf battery pack replaced. It came out to $6996.52.
thanks for finding and posting the details.

i wonder if it has the same cells as the original, so you're just resetting the capacity and it starting the clock again.

This looks like an average of ~$1k per year additional cost just for the OEM battery pack, ($7k for 7 years use). Kinda negates any savings for energy costs of electric vs gasoline.

Lack of an active pack Thermal Management System relegates Laefs as limited-range city commuter cars only. They may have Chademo and nationwide GPS, but those are just gimmicks for marketing and are useless without a Real TMS.

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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:16 am

nlspace wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:20 am
cwerdna wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:06 am
... the poster (initials PC) paid in full to get his '12 Leaf battery pack replaced. It came out to $6996.52.
i wonder if it has the same cells as the original, so you're just resetting the capacity and it starting the clock again.
That guy had a '12. No, it shouldn't be the same as the lousy original chemistry. Search viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17168&p=374490 for lizard. Also see viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13192&p=320754&hili ... ng#p320754 from before the "lizard" pack became available.

Leftie at viewtopic.php?t=26662 summarized what we know about the 24 kWh packs.

We've had reports from folks that the lizard packs hold up better. Example: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=24209&p=499072&hil ... rs#p499072

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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:38 am

nlspace wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:20 am
cwerdna wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:06 am
... the poster (initials PC) paid in full to get his '12 Leaf battery pack replaced. It came out to $6996.52.
thanks for finding and posting the details.

i wonder if it has the same cells as the original, so you're just resetting the capacity and it starting the clock again.

This looks like an average of ~$1k per year additional cost just for the OEM battery pack, ($7k for 7 years use). Kinda negates any savings for energy costs of electric vs gasoline.

Lack of an active pack Thermal Management System relegates Laefs as limited-range city commuter cars only. They may have Chademo and nationwide GPS, but those are just gimmicks for marketing and are useless without a Real TMS.
That conclusion of no savings is incorrect. You saved mucho buckos with the original battery. Now, the new battery will be giving you savings for the next decade.... Forward....

I keep all my cars for 20+ years and plan to change the battery when needed. The cost is very fair if it is to keep a no-maintenance vehicle going for a decade. About what people spend in cigarette per year.

PS - DON'T SAY, "WHAT IF IS IS TOTALED". I considered that already.

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Re: has anyone actually paid for an out of warranty battery replacement

Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:13 am

My 2011 battery was replaced by Nissan just outside of the warranty period a little less than 3 years ago. Back when they were more "cooperative", they offered to pay 80% if I paid 20%. I took them up on the deal...

Fast forward, if I were going to pay for a pack replacement now, I would try to use this Costco program that offers 15% off on dealer service. You go to the link below, put in your Costco credentials, and then you are referred to a dealer (Nissan in this case) that is a participant in the program. The dealer then offers a 15% discount for parts and service, up to $500 maximum, and it's good for most brands of cars that use the dealership model of service...

https://www.costcoauto.com/parts_and_service/

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