http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/11 ... calh2.htmlFive additional hydrogen stations proposed for California
Unfortunately, they didn't expand the network to allow travel to any new areas, as these just add local urban capacity. They need to do both to emphasize an FCEV's operational advantages over BEVs for renters and road trips.The California Energy Commission has issued a “Revised Notice of Proposed Awards” that recommends five additional hydrogen fueling stations previously recommended for funding by Energy Commission staff. The newly awarded stations are:
Beverly Hills (FirstElement Fuel)
Studio City (FirstElement Fuel)
San Jose (Shell)
Redwood City (FirstElement Fuel)
Mission Hills (FirstElement Fuel)
The Energy Commission’s commissioners must approve the awards at an upcoming meeting before they are considered “awarded.” With this addition, California has a total of 66 retail hydrogen stations open, in development, and proposed.
There is certainly a way to go, and no one has ever said otherwise. OTOH, tossing around figures like $100k loss per Mirai for Toyota is based on what evidence - only Toyota knows how much each Mirai costs them, and they're not saying. As Toyota, along with Honda and Hyundai are still eating ca. $15k in fuel costs per FCEV, the cost to the consumer per mile remains zero up to that limit.SageBrush wrote:The ARB report reads like an advert.
I was surprised to read that H2 still costs $10 a Kg despite the majority being sourced from NG. For the Mirai that works out to ~ 16 cents a mile ... for a car that costs $57k to the consumer ... that is thought to cost Toyota $100k in losses on every car.
They have a LONG way to go, California funded H2 fueling stations or not.
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/01 ... 4-doe.htmlDOE analysis suggests rapid convergence of FCEV and BEV TCOs; FCEVs less expensive for majority of LDV fleet by 2040; mass compounding
At $150 per kWh, the expected battery cell cost in 2025, that would be the same as adding 100kWh.GRA wrote:As Toyota, along with Honda and Hyundai are still eating ca. $15k in fuel costs per FCEV
Uh huh, and at $4/kg., DoE's target price for H2, it will be more than competitive with gas. Who knows when either tech will actually get there.WetEV wrote:At $150 per kWh, the expected battery cell cost in 2025, that would be the same as adding 100kWh.GRA wrote:As Toyota, along with Honda and Hyundai are still eating ca. $15k in fuel costs per FCEV
Me either. I've tried to find it where it's not behind a paywall, but no luck.SageBrush wrote:I'm not going to spend $35 to read the article -- nice entertainment notwithstanding.