goldbrick
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Re: Looking for Leaf; lost out on 2 attempts

Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:22 pm

I have an S but I live in Colorado where it's sunny and not too cold. I charge at work or at other free locations but they are all L2 chargers.
A trickle charge will be quite slow but if you're at work all day charging, 25 miles won't be an issue. The 30kWh Leafs are a pretty big jump up in capability but might also be in price. A lot depends on location.

Lupus
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Location: Chicago, IL, USA

Re: Looking for Leaf; lost out on 2 attempts

Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:28 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:57 pm
The range issue with the S is because of the resistance-only heater. If you can happily drive with just the seat and wheel heaters, then it could work. (BRRR!) You want to verify that the car was built AFTER March of 2013, though, as earlier builds use the old, bad chemistry in the battery.
Seller posted a picture of the door sticker so I could see it was made July 2015. I verified the QC port in person by opening it up (and the inner door incase the cars without it leave the lid on, like how there is a blank spot for the fog lights). I'm pretty sure there are no red flags here considering my very low range needs.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/ ... 13303.html

:P I do love the cold - I only wished my old cube had a heated steering wheel.

LeftieBiker
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Re: Looking for Leaf; lost out on 2 attempts

Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:58 pm

I had a Senior Moment on the year, and mis-remembered you writing that it was a 2013. If no red flags, and as long as you understand that you can't add the heat pump or the remote access telematics, you should be ok. Luckily for you, the S got cruise control in 2015, IIRC. The lack of it then saved me from leasing a 2013 S and not having enough Winter range for my commute.
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GerryAZ
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Re: Looking for Leaf; lost out on 2 attempts

Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:21 am

It is definitely an S model since it has radio with knobs and separate HVAC controls. Downsides to S model:
1. Halogen headlights instead of LED low beams with halogen high beams.
2. No telematics system so no remote access for climate control, etc.
3. No heat pump so resistance heater uses more energy even just for defrost.
Gerry
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Looking for Leaf; lost out on 2 attempts

Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:49 am

1. Halogen headlights instead of LED low beams with halogen high beams.
Some SV models have halogen combo bulbs - no LEDs. Mine was like that. Any SV without a QC port is likely to have halogen lights, high and low, as the LED lights were part of the Charge Package.
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dcdisc
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Re: Looking for Leaf; lost out on 2 attempts

Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:50 am

The KBB site gives the Private sale value of 7800-9700 Trade In 6400-7800.The sale price always depends on a few variables between seller and buyer.Try to keep emotion out of the deal.The impending stock market crash may soften prices.

PrairieLEAF
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Location: Weld County, Colorado

Re: Looking for Leaf; lost out on 2 attempts

Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:34 am

Did you see this 2015 SV?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/ctd/ ... 35709.html

...and this 30 kWh 2016 SV?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ctd/ ... 87309.html

As much as I love EVs, I don't think I would use one if I couldn't charge at home. Running back and forth to level 2 stations sounds very inconvenient, and level 3 charging is expensive and hard on the battery.

Nissan suggests keeping charge level between 20-80% as much as possible for long-term battery life. This would be easier with the remote connectivity of the SV/SL, but you still risk tying up public chargers, or a lot of running back and forth.
2016 LEAF S-30 w/QC "Lexie"

Lupus
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Re: Looking for Leaf; lost out on 2 attempts

Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:57 am

In good news I convinced my landlord to let me charge at home. In bad news, I can't use any private sellers because my credit union doesn't do financing for anything but franchised dealerships. So back to the drawing board.

For now I'm back to looking and definitely want an SL, but I will settle for an SV with quick charge. If another one falls through, I think I'll have to take that as a sign :(

I've already been without a car since mid-January and this is getting on my nerves. Hence putting more effort into my search.

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Re: Looking for Leaf; lost out on 2 attempts

Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:07 am

If your landlord has a spare dryer or welder outlet you can get a 16-24 amp 240 volt L-2 charging station. That would be MUCH faster than a L-1 120 volt station or cable, but as noted if you have modest range needs and can plug in for many hours a day, L-1 will work. I still use it after 7 years. Just make sure the circuit hasn't got anything more than a light or two on it now. You need about 14.5 amps available on the circuit for a 12 amp charging cable or station because of the NEC's 80% rule, which says that you can only use 80% of a circuit's rated amperage for continuous (more than 3 hours) loads.
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Lupus
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Re: Looking for Leaf; lost out on 2 attempts

Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:38 pm

PrairieLEAF wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:34 am
Did you see this 2015 SV?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/ctd/ ... 35709.html

...and this 30 kWh 2016 SV?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ctd/ ... 87309.html
First link is the first one I tried to buy (and someone else bought it) - they haven't taken down the post because they either don't care or want to get people on the phone to try to sell them a different car. Second link is in Missouri (they posted in the wrong Craigslist).

I appreciate you trying to help :). I'm going to check daily on CL and cars.com and a few other aggregates.

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