DaveinOlyWA
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:38 pm

GetOffYourGas wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:23 pm
Weird. In the northeast, EVgo still has their obscenely expensive rates. They charge by minute, but even charging at their max rate you are paying 50-60 cents/kWh. And sessions are limited to 45 minutes except during the night.
What are you paying? COVID rates here is 20 cents/min and I typically average 26-27 cents/kwh. I think non COVID rates are 25 cents/min so probably 32 cents a minute? I don't go much past peak power. Don't believe in overpaying ;)
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:46 pm

Re: EVgo's COVID rates, I found our previous discussion of that at viewtopic.php?p=588096#p588096. Interestingly, GetOffYourGas was part of that discussion.

I've still not signed up for that as I don't feel like I qualify by what they intended, as I mentioned back then.

Since that discussion, my marginal cost to charge at home has gone up. Now it's ~33.5 cents per kWh (see page 1 of https://www.pge.com/tariffs/assets/pdf/ ... DS_E-1.pdf) due to their insufficient baseline and me paying 1 cent extra per kWh to the city for supposedly 100% renewable sourced electricity. As such, I still avoid it.

Too bad the 19 cent/kWh DC FCs kinda near home have been broken for over two months now. The L2's (same price) there still work. There's one "24 kW" CCS DC FC at ChargePoint HQ that is set to free but it's off the network/hidden or something so you can't see it in their app or map, thus you don't know if it'll be free or working until you arrive.

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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:59 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:46 pm
Re: EVgo's COVID rates, I found our previous discussion of that at viewtopic.php?p=588096#p588096. Interestingly, GetOffYourGas was part of that discussion.

I've still not signed up for that as I don't feel like I qualify by what they intended, as I mentioned back then.

Since that discussion, my marginal cost to charge at home has gone up. Now it's ~33.5 cents per kWh (see page 1 of https://www.pge.com/tariffs/assets/pdf/ ... DS_E-1.pdf) due to their insufficient baseline and me paying 1 cent extra per kWh to the city for supposedly 100% renewable sourced electricity. As such, I still avoid it.

Too bad the 19 cent/kWh DC FCs kinda near home have been broken for over two months now. The L2's (same price) there still work. There's one "24 kW" CCS DC FC at ChargePoint HQ that is set to free but it's off the network/hidden or something so you can't see it in their app or map, thus you don't know if it'll be free or working until you arrive.
Well, you WFH, I was labor sharing to a facility that was SLAMMED when the lockdowns hit (Amazon Fresh) and wish I could do it every year. It was a VERY lucrative 6 weeks for me. Not only was I getting free DC charging but was also getting paid over $200 a week in travel pay. Not bad for a 4 day work week. FYI; travel pay is considered business expense, not income so I got ALL of it.
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:49 am

https://www.plugshare.com/location/251947 had pics added today and one of the pics shows a CHAdeMO adapter (https://shop.tesla.com/product/chademo-adapter) inside the box.

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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:18 am

During COVID, I have charged at multiple EVgo locations in both NY and VT. The member price $0.27/minute (after the $7.99 membership fee, but that's applied to your charging fee so it's a no-brainer). At peak rate, the chargers output 36kW (100A chargers). At $0.27/minute, that's $16.20 for 37kWh, or $0.45/kWh. So maybe I exaggerated a tiny bit. But in NY and VT, tax is added on top of that so it's more like $0.49/kWh after tax. But that is the absolute best price you can get. It gets far worse from there.

And regardless of what they claim, I am telling you from experience, they cut me off at 45 minutes. It's a pain to restart the session, but I've never seen someone else waiting so I just restart and keep charging.
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:55 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:18 am
During COVID, I have charged at multiple EVgo locations in both NY and VT. The member price $0.27/minute (after the $7.99 membership fee, but that's applied to your charging fee so it's a no-brainer). At peak rate, the chargers output 36kW (100A chargers). At $0.27/minute, that's $16.20 for 37kWh, or $0.45/kWh. So maybe I exaggerated a tiny bit. But in NY and VT, tax is added on top of that so it's more like $0.49/kWh after tax. But that is the absolute best price you can get. It gets far worse from there.

And regardless of what they claim, I am telling you from experience, they cut me off at 45 minutes. It's a pain to restart the session, but I've never seen someone else waiting so I just restart and keep charging.
Ah, ok, slower chargers and higher rates. We also have PSE (Puget Sound Energy) and that is a straight 25 cents/kwh on 100/150 KW chargers.
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:31 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:18 am
At peak rate, the chargers output 36kW (100A chargers).
Nearly all of EVgo’s previously 100A max machines have been upgraded to 125A. If you have encountered any recently that are at 100A, please reach out to EVgo support so they can investigate.
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:40 am

JeremyW wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:31 am
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:18 am
At peak rate, the chargers output 36kW (100A chargers).
Nearly all of EVgo’s previously 100A max machines have been upgraded to 125A. If you have encountered any recently that are at 100A, please reach out to EVgo support so they can investigate.
I have yet to see any of the regulars that I use get upgraded to 125A. I would certainly notice that.

I will start to contact EVgo each time I come across a 100A charger. But that's going to be most times I use EVgo chargers. I try to stick to Electrify America because they are so much cheaper (EA is $0.31/kWh, EVgo is $0.45-$0.90/kWh depending on my SoC).
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:40 pm

I guess cases like at viewtopic.php?p=600977#p600977 are opportunities for EVgo. Video allegedly shows a clueless Model 3 driver who tries to charge at EA site (presumably w/no J1772) and can't since they don't have the CHAdeMO adapter and Tesla isn't shipping a SAE Combo adapter in the US either.

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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:27 pm

Saw new pics added to https://www.plugshare.com/location/309517. Interesting that they're using DC FCs from Delta (Taiwanese company) and Signet. I've not personally seen these styles of DC FCs before (not that I've used that many).

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