PotRoastMan
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2013 pricing

Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:50 am

I am looking at a 2013 which appears to be in great shape. Low miles, 11 bars remaining, premium package.. But the price is about $1500 more than KBB, NADA, Edmunds say (even on their high end). But I am finding higher than expected pricing basically everywhere (And if the car is within KBB/NADA/Edmunds range, I usually find the battery is not in good shape or there is obvious wear, or even salvage!). The one i'm looking at certainly is in much better shape than others, but does that justify going 1500 above and beyond the pricing guides?

thanks for opinions!!

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Re: 2013 pricing

Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:20 pm

S, SV or SL?
LEAF '13 SL+Prem (mfg 12/13, leased 4/14, bought 5/17, sold 11/18) 34K mi, AHr 58, SOH 87%
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Re: 2013 pricing

Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:21 pm

SL with premium package as well as cargo organizer.

knightmb
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Re: 2013 pricing

Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:22 pm

Do you have a link to the vehicle that has pictures, etc. In case something stands out in pictures that a 2013 owner would spot?
2013 Leaf SV

PotRoastMan
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Re: 2013 pricing

Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:43 pm

I was hoping not to be this specific, but there's no way to go about it otherwise. Also I am unable to see the car in person, it would have to be shipped to me. And it is an independent used car place (not tied to a dealership) so I would probably be screwed if there was something wrong. Worth the risk or not, I don't know, but there is nothing locally that I would be interested in.

https://www.jabaay.com/2013-Nissan-LEAF ... 10/6665645

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jlv
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Re: 2013 pricing

Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:04 pm

Seems odd that it is priced at a premium with 1 bar down. The last image shows that it was mfg'd on 6/13, which means at least it has the better chemistry. It's probably the independent used car place trying to charge an arm and leg.
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LEAF '13 SL+Prem (mfg 12/13, leased 4/14, bought 5/17, sold 11/18) 34K mi, AHr 58, SOH 87%
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jjeff
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Re: 2013 pricing

Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:07 pm

Wow, were they paid by how many duplicate photos that could have :roll:
I agree, prices in MSP have been quite high the last couple of years but for comparison, my mother purchased a Leaf basically the same as this(same year, same color, same package) and paid the same thing, this was 3 years ago from a private seller, second owner. I can't remember if she paid extra for it but she also got a 30a L2 first owner built EVSE.
She really likes the car, has heated seats all around, nice hybrid heater, nice-sounding stereo, nice all-around camera, oh it still has 12 bars but I believe started with 35k miles.
It's really a nice car but sounds like the price may be a bit high but as I said, MSP has been really high for Leafs lately, if you've looked around a lot and this price seems good, it is a nice car. As long as your looking at shipping the car, personally I'd expand your search area, probably not all that much more expensive than getting something out of CA or better yet WA where it's quite a bit cooler, I believe EVs are quite a bit cheaper on the West coast, more than enough to offset shipping.
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Re: 2013 pricing

Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:06 pm

How about a 2016 which spent its first 3 years in Arizona? 2nd owner owned it for only 4 months. Should be a Lizard pack, it is also 11 bars (40,000 miles). That one is actually local! I think I eliminated it from my search because it was an arizona car... it is more in line with the pricing guides.

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Re: 2013 pricing

Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:12 pm

Think the 2013 is too high on price. Why not cwerdna? He was trying to sell his (in CA) for something like $6500? At least he's a trustworthy guy on this site and you know you're not getting a lemon. And if you are, it's $4k below the linked price.
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Re: 2013 pricing

Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:13 pm

PotRoastMan wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:06 pm
How about a 2016 which spent its first 3 years in Arizona? 2nd owner owned it for only 4 months. Should be a Lizard pack, it is also 11 bars (40,000 miles). That one is actually local! I think I eliminated it from my search because it was an arizona car... it is more in line with the pricing guides.
Bit curious that the second owner only had it for 4 months. You could go check out the battery with LeafSpy and see what it says. In general, it sounds fairly reasonable.

Given your climate, I would definitely look at SV/SL (NOT S trim) unless it's a great deal and your range needs are small. You're going to want the heat pump, which makes heating more efficient, which comes on the higher trim levels. However, I think in recent years, the heat pump became an option even on the SV. Perhaps someone around here has more info on that...
2011 Silver SV, purchased 2018, lives in Missouri (previously in CA)
LeafSpy Pro + BAFX Products OBDII dongle
Battery swap 2019/04/24 (87% SOH, 12 bar)

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