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Re: DC Quickcharging for Leafs at dealers

Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:33 am

I think its a fully deductible business expense.. and practical for testing the cars you sell with the L3 charging port. Free gasoline for life! is a hell of a sales tool... probably not a good idea if the dealer pays $0.35 a kWh :)

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Re: DC Quickcharging for Leafs at dealers

Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:25 am

Herm wrote:I think its a fully deductible business expense.. and practical for testing the cars you sell with the L3 charging port. Free gasoline for life! is a hell of a sales tool... probably not a good idea if the dealer pays $0.35 a kWh :)
i think its a good idea, but as always subject to abuse so a limit of say X charge sessions per month is reasonable not including any service or sales related visit.

"take a test drive while your EV charges" Sales Events would be awesome
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 11,333.1 mi, 93.73% SOH
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Re: DC Quickcharging for Leafs at dealers

Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:16 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Herm wrote:I think its a fully deductible business expense.. and practical for testing the cars you sell with the L3 charging port. Free gasoline for life! is a hell of a sales tool... probably not a good idea if the dealer pays $0.35 a kWh :)
i think its a good idea, but as always subject to abuse so a limit of say X charge sessions per month is reasonable not including any service or sales related visit.

"take a test drive while your EV charges" Sales Events would be awesome
Fontana Nissan is a little ahead of you; they and Aerovironment held a DCQC event on September 1 & 2. I was very pleased to see and use the new Nissan QC and I like it much better than the Eaton/TEPCO QC unit. The Nissan unit is much more quiet and has a numerical SOC on the display.
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Re: DC Quickcharging for Leafs at dealers

Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:39 am

GotMyleaf wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Herm wrote:I think its a fully deductible business expense.. and practical for testing the cars you sell with the L3 charging port. Free gasoline for life! is a hell of a sales tool... probably not a good idea if the dealer pays $0.35 a kWh :)
i think its a good idea, but as always subject to abuse so a limit of say X charge sessions per month is reasonable not including any service or sales related visit.

"take a test drive while your EV charges" Sales Events would be awesome
Fontana Nissan is a little ahead of you; they and Aerovironment held a DCQC event on September 1 & 2. I was very pleased to see and use the new Nissan QC and I like it much better than the Eaton/TEPCO QC unit. The Nissan unit is much more quiet and has a numerical SOC on the display.
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that is a QC? awesome, i do like the compact nature of the beast!

and yes, Nissan should have put QC's in all their dealerships just so people can really understand how cool it really is to get 40 miles of range in 11 minutes!!
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 11,333.1 mi, 93.73% SOH
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Re: DC Quickcharging for Leafs at dealers

Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:36 am

Looks like it's on a pallet. Is it now permanently installed ?
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GotMyleaf
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Re: DC Quickcharging for Leafs at dealers

Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:04 pm

LEAFer wrote:Looks like it's on a pallet. Is it now permanently installed ?
No, it was the mobile unit and was only there for two days.

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Re: DC Quickcharging for Leafs at dealers

Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:27 pm

Well, then I am not that impressed with Fontana Nissan since they did not make the decision to make a permanent installation of Nissan's QC.

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Re: DC Quickcharging for Leafs at dealers

Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:41 am

As I was discussing the difference between SL and SV with my delaer, going through the brochure point by point, when I saw the SL had a quick charge port and the SV didn't, he said that was wrong, neither had it.

I came here and learned the truth and bought the SL.

IF they had a free QC station it could help with the upsell to SL. But they would have to understand it first.

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Re: DC Quickcharging for Leafs at dealers

Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:26 pm

Maybe your salesperson was confused by the difference between the 2011 and the 2012. On the 2011, the SL didn't necessarily have a QC. But, the SV could not have the QC. The QC was an option only available on the SL. On the 2012, the QC comes standard on the SL, and is still not available on the SV. I personally think the QC should be standard on all models (and, as I've stated countless times, I think most Nissan dealers should have a QC available!)
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Re: DC Quickcharging for Leafs at dealers

Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:52 pm

Well, Tesla just announced their network of DC Superchargers able to deliver 95kW per hour vs. 50kW per hour for the Leaf. What is even more amazing is that Elon Musk has set a new standard for other electric car manufacturers to rise to - FREE FOREVER quick charging for all model S and probably all teslas.

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It's only a matter of time before they come out with a smaller maybe lower range tesla that will compete with the Leaf and the Volt in the 38K-40K range. I imagine it will be at least 100 USABLE miles. Their superchargers are not the ChaDeMo or SAE GM standard. They don't have to be. If Nissan does not add quick chargers to their dealerships they will surely miss an opportunity to maintain their sales momentum. They've got 38000 Leafs on the road. I am one of them. I am also getting a model s and a model x and probably the next model that tesla makes. Unless Nissan gives me a compelling reason to keep my leaf or trade it in for another one, this is probably the last nissan electric car I buy.

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