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LeftieBiker said:Open your eyes when you're driving, man!!
I don't have to open my eyes!
The etron is an SUV.
LeftieBiker said:Open your eyes when you're driving, man!!
Did you mistype Wagon and meant Wrangler? Jeep Wrangler (especially Rubicon edition) is not SUV - it is All Terrain Vehicle (ATV). SUV is no match to ATV even by a long stretch of imagination. I am looking forward to re-build 2015+ Jeep Wrangler Rubicon! Stock 2006 Rubicon with 80K miles is selling for $15.6K by local dealer. Great cars, just a bit pricey to buy in retail.WetEV said:If not, not. Tesla will become the new Willys-Overland. Or worse.
Jeeps still have fans. And the Jeep Wagon was the first SUV...Seen any SUVs lately?
cwerdna said:China's CATL signs battery supply agreement with Tesla
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-catl-battery-electric/chinas-catl-signs-battery-supply-agreement-with-tesla-idUSKBN1ZX02D
This is an inaccurate statement until he actually delivers everything he's ever said he'd deliver. There are many things he's promised that he has never delivered.EVDRIVER said:Musk is overly optimistic but has delivered or exceeded every promise eventually.
I almost bought some in 2017 at $330 or so. Over the following year I lost faith in Tesla, primarily Musk. I just don't trust him. I don't like him. He's a liar (I don't call it optimism--he is a liar) and not a pleasant person, either. I simply didn't want to own shares in his company.EVDRIVER said:I wonder how many people on this thread own Tesla shares and have done very with it and how many have none. I can guess who might and might not pretty well based on the comments and misinformation. It's a pretty easy stock to follow and there are plenty of indicators and issues to watch. People that paid attention (not just expected it to go up) could have made enough to buy a M3 and actually see why the company is doing well and not have to worry about crappy charge networks and range issues.
EatsShootsandLeafs said:This is an inaccurate statement until he actually delivers everything he's ever said he'd deliver. There are many things he's promised that he has never delivered.EVDRIVER said:Musk is overly optimistic but has delivered or exceeded every promise eventually.
I almost bought some in 2017 at $330 or so. Over the following year I lost faith in Tesla, primarily Musk. I just don't trust him. I don't like him. He's a liar (I don't call it optimism--he is a liar) and not a pleasant person, either. I simply didn't want to own shares in his company.EVDRIVER said:I wonder how many people on this thread own Tesla shares and have done very with it and how many have none. I can guess who might and might not pretty well based on the comments and misinformation. It's a pretty easy stock to follow and there are plenty of indicators and issues to watch. People that paid attention (not just expected it to go up) could have made enough to buy a M3 and actually see why the company is doing well and not have to worry about crappy charge networks and range issues.
$675 pre market today.
Why?GaleHawkins said:I have not met Musk face to face like you must have done to be able to publicly call him a LIAR.
EatsShootsandLeafs said:Why?GaleHawkins said:I have not met Musk face to face like you must have done to be able to publicly call him a LIAR.
I can't imagine for a moment why somebody needs to have met somebody in person to call them a liar. Doesn't make sense at all. Are you able to expound on this belief?
I agree intent is a critical part of a lie.webb14leafs said:EatsShootsandLeafs said:Why?GaleHawkins said:I have not met Musk face to face like you must have done to be able to publicly call him a LIAR.
I can't imagine for a moment why somebody needs to have met somebody in person to call them a liar. Doesn't make sense at all. Are you able to expound on this belief?
Technically, you have to know someone's intent to deceive to call them a "liar". I think Musk believes all of his predictions, and aside from the going private tweet, they have been substantially accurate, just not on time.
Musk posted this last week.EatsShootsandLeafs said:As for Musk's predictions, he has made so many that have been so wildly, shockingly wrong that he's either a liar or a fool. We can probably all agree he's not a fool.
I'm sure we can agree the Model S is not an affordable car. At least the Model 3 is more affordable than the S. But they do seem to be chugging away working against this plan.A friend just sent me this excerpt from a Tesla blog I wrote 14 years ago
He's said literally dozens of things that were patently untrue. And when somebody time-constrains something and it doesn't happen, it means they were wrong, quite simply.jlv said:Musk posted this last week.EatsShootsandLeafs said:As for Musk's predictions, he has made so many that have been so wildly, shockingly wrong that he's either a liar or a fool. We can probably all agree he's not a fool.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1222597315023654912
I'm sure we can agree the Model S is not an affordable car. At least the Model 3 is more affordable than the S. But they do seem to be chugging away working against this plan.A friend just sent me this excerpt from a Tesla blog I wrote 14 years ago
EatsShootsandLeafs said:Many things when he's said them are so preposterous as to be clearly untrue and impossible, and roundly mocked the day the statements are made. Last year was probably the peak of this. Will be interesting to see how 2020 pans out.
Yes: Stock closed at $780.00 +$129.43 (19.89%)EVDRIVER said:Pretty crazy today.
Wonder if short positions are getting closed out? Gotta hurt.dgpcolorado said:Yes: Stock closed at $780.00 +$129.43 (19.89%)EVDRIVER said:Pretty crazy today.
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