TonyWilliams said:
DaveinOlyWA said:
Now, if [Tesla] offered a great family sedan with 120 miles of range in the upper 20's, then ok I am with that. But I don't think they will and I think its a good idea that they don't.
They are talking about a 200 mile car in 4-5 years, at a $30k price. We already know how that can be interpreted:
$30k could mean $39.9k, and that might be with the $7.5k fed tax credit, which means a $47.4k car. Then, the next "scam" is that is quoted in 2009 dollars (the aircraft manufacturers pull this one) and by 2018, that means $55k in 2018 dollars. Then throw in every option at $1500 a pop, $1500 destination charge, et al...
the way everyone is talking about Tesla, they wont have any fed discounts left in 4-5 years. I think Tesla will be just like any high end car manufacturer where their "cheap" is only relative to the other cars in the lineup.
I think Tesla is a great company and they have done great things but to think they are going to be the "be all that is all" is simply crazy. and to think we are going to see a mass migration to $50,000 + cars is just as crazy. if that is what it will take for EVs to be successful, you might as well kill them now.
now, there will come a time when power storage options will be cheaper but when that comes, there will be a flood on the market like highly efficient 4 cylinder cars in the upper teens. Is Tesla going to jump into that? I don't think so. they have distinguished themselves as a car company that is "cut from a different cloth". for them to try to compete at the mass consumer level is a mistake.