padamson1 said:
evnow said:
padamson1 said:
- Proven Tesla technology,
- Same lease deal as LEAF (Fed Credit taken off Lease base cost).
Proven to be unreliable ?
Where do you see the lease deal ?
None my friends who own Teslas have had problems with their batteries or drive train. That's not to say they aren't concerned by the Edmunds report documenting issues every 10k miles, but they've all got 20-40k miles and no issues, maybe b/c most have being doing tire rotation and wheel alignments to pre-emptively avoid those issues.
Wheel alignments and tire rotations don't aren't preventive maintenance against drive unit noise and/or failure, something failing inside the battery pack (contactor or fuse?) or pumps failing.
Noise at http://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2013/long-term-road-test/2013-tesla-model-s-ominous-noise.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; caused Edmunds' drive unit to be replaced: http://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2013/long-term-road-test/2013-tesla-model-s-ominous-noise-fixed.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
http://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2013/long-term-road-test/2013-tesla-model-s-stuck-on-the-freeway.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; caused http://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2013/long-term-road-test/2013-tesla-model-s-is-the-third-drive-unit-the-charm.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; necessitating a 2nd replacement drive unit, 12 volt and HV battery pack.
There are these, for example:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/29834-Drive-Unit-Replacement-Poll" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (ignore the answer of 5+ due to http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/29834-Drive-Unit-Replacement-Poll/page5?p=630805&viewfull=1#post630805" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/27853-That-very-loud-and-painful-clunk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/27941-Main-Battery-Replacement" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/27941-Main-Battery-Replacement?p=589711&viewfull=1#post589711" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/25766-Tesla-wants-to-replace-my-drive-unit-900-miles-on-car" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/26887-Stranded-Feeling-like-George-Clooney/page3?p=571247&viewfull=1#post571247" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/26887-Stranded-Feeling-like-George-Clooney/page4?p=588608&viewfull=1#post588608" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/10398-Model-S-Technical-Mechanical-Issues/page240?p=620031&viewfull=1#post620031" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/29765-Sounds-like-I-am-driving-a-souped-up-Honda-Civic?p=629544&viewfull=1#post629544" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/29937-Sound-at-high-power?p=631428&viewfull=1#post631428" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/28468-Hum-Going-Over-70-MPH?p=602270&viewfull=1#post602270" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/19785-Car-delivered-yesterday-died-10-times-today-stranding-my-family/page7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/21238-Main-Battery-and-12V-battery-failure-in-the-middle-of-the-intersection" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/21238-Main-Battery-and-12V-battery-failure-in-the-middle-of-the-intersection/page2?p=437259&viewfull=1#post437259" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/21238-Main-Battery-and-12V-battery-failure-in-the-middle-of-the-intersection/page2?p=436225&viewfull=1#post436225" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/21238-Main-Battery-and-12V-battery-failure-in-the-middle-of-the-intersection/page5?p=440118&viewfull=1#post440118" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There are numerous other threads. Some of those affected Tesla's biggest defenders and/or fanboys. Being one doesn't make one's car miraculously more reliable. Quite a few Rav4 EV drive units have been replaced per threads myrav4ev.com (many are mentioned at http://www.myrav4ev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=251&sid=564162e55eae13c458f2155c042bad2f" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
, which is troubling considering the tiny installed base.