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Santa Rosa Kia told us today Souls are in and they're in selling "like hotcakes." Sales people exaggerate, but if true, watch out Nissan!
There are already a couple of new owners in SoCal on the Soul EV forum; I haven't seen any Bay Area owners there yet, but I expect there'll be some soon. I may head on over to a dealer this weekend to test drive one, although most of them seem to be EV+ and I'd rather drive the base model. [Edit] And there's already a report that at least one dealer's ABB CHAdeMO QC won't charge one person's car.ILETRIC said:Santa Rosa Kia told us today Souls are in and they're in selling "like hotcakes." Sales people exaggerate, but if true, watch out Nissan!
ILETRIC said:Santa Rosa Kia told us today Souls are in and they're in selling "like hotcakes." Sales people exaggerate, but if true, watch out Nissan!
TomT said:"The Kia Soul EV has received its official EPA ratings. The all-electric range is 93 miles – putting it higher than the Nissan LEAF’s 84 miles, the Mercedes B-Class Electric Drive’s 87 miles, and the BMW i3’s 81 miles.
Interestingly, in the city, the Soul electric vehicle’s city range is 103.6 miles, which puts is on par with the Rav 4 EV that is rated at 107 miles in the city.
Overall efficiency is rated at 105 MPGe, with 120 MPGe in the city and 92 MPGe on the highway."
But most people do not do regular maintenance at the dealer. They are too expensive - they go to their local favorite lube shop.NeilBlanchard said:Typical costs for regular service at the dealer, on an ICE is about equal or more than the cost of electricity to drive an typical EV. That is about 3-3.5¢ / mile for regular maintenance.
ILETRIC said:The 1st test drive yielded 81 miles range. This is what I was afraid of (27 kW battery).
I'm a bit loathe to be pedantic, but you've have had a Leaf WAY longer than me and aren't a newbie to EVs.... For the benefit of others and to avoid confusion, your unit usage is wrong. To partly quote someone else:ILETRIC said:Wonder what is m/kW number on the Soul...
My Leaf hovers between 3.8 and 4.0
Nope. 3.8 to 4 miles per kilowatt-hour or 3.8 to 4 miles/kWh, exactly as your car's dash display and color LCD says. Do a Google image search for miles/kwh nissan leaf.ILETRIC said:correction: 3.8 to 4 miles per kilowatt
how's that?
mtndrew1 said:I just picked up my Soul EV + this afternoon. Dealer got five in on Monday and they now have one left on the lot, so at least in LA they're moving quickly.
mtndrew1 said:I just picked up my Soul EV + this afternoon. Dealer got five in on Monday and they now have one left on the lot, so at least in LA they're moving quickly.
Was intending to get the Leaf but I'm still a tiny bit leery about battery degradation until the Lizard battery has proven itself, and the Soul has a rudimentary battery TMS. It's not as sophisticated as the Volt's, but much better than a sealed metal box of cooking batteries (IMO).
The Volt was my gateway drug to all-EV driving and I'm glad it was there as a stepping stone, but I'd like to move on from gas. Crossing my fingers for many happy miles in the Soul!
.....oh the irony ~ Nissan goes to great lengths to make the Leaf aero shaped .... and the Kia - a car shaped like a BOX blows it's range out of the water. At least the Kia's ugly factor gets better range. What excuse does the Leaf have now ...TomT said:"The Kia Soul EV has received its official EPA ratings. The all-electric range is 93 miles – putting it higher than the Nissan LEAF’s 84 miles .........snip...........
It's so ugly the air gets out of its way :roll:hill said:...oh the irony ~ Nissan goes to great lengths to make the Leaf aero shaped .... and the Kia - a car shaped like a BOX blows it's range out of the water. At least the Kia's ugly factor gets better range. What excuse does the Leaf have now ...
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hill said:.....oh the irony ~ Nissan goes to great lengths to make the Leaf aero shaped .... and the Kia - a car shaped like a BOX blows it's range out of the water. At least the Kia's ugly factor gets better range. What excuse does the Leaf have now ...TomT said:"The Kia Soul EV has received its official EPA ratings. The all-electric range is 93 miles – putting it higher than the Nissan LEAF’s 84 miles .........snip...........
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Randy' said:The Soul EV has a 27 kWh battery pack, so it kinda makes sense.
TomT said:Randy' said:The Soul EV has a 27 kWh battery pack, so it kinda makes sense.
Not really, the Soul's battery is 11% bigger than the Leaf's, yet its range is virtually the same 11% greater, despite being heavier and less aerodynamic... Thus, it is doing better than it's greater battery capacity alone would account for...
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