GetOffYourGas
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TonyWilliams said:GetOffYourGas said:I believe what he is referring to is the fact that a manufacturer does not actually have to sell any cars in a given ZEV state, but rather can count sales in another state towards the requirement (no double-dipping though).
For example, many EVs are not available in NY. It is easier for Toyota, for example, to just sell the Rav4 EV in a handful of dealerships in CA. They just have to sell enough to hit the percentage for all 8 ZEV states combined. Therefore, although NY signed on to the group, we don't see the benefit. Instead CA gets a few extra cars.
That's called the "Traveling Provision". In model year 2018, it goes away except for hydrogen cars, which will continue to be sold in California only.
In addition to only selling/leasing hydrogen cars in California only, they also get 300% more credit per car than a "100 mile" battery electric car.
So, even if Washington state joins CARB-ZEV, you won't see a Toyota, Hyundai, or Honda ZEV there. I suspect there will be others, like Mercedes, will go hydrogen, too.
Well, either he mispoke or I misunderstood him. But yes, that was my assumption of what evnow was referring to.
I'm glad that provision goes away in 4 years. Too bad it isn't sooner. We could really use a few more options outside of California. Although my local Kia dealer claimed he would have a Soul EV this fall. Looks like it may be next spring. Or maybe 2018. Sigh.