Heartland Institute Building Anti-Science Curriculum

[Fabio]

Maybe one of the deniers should explain their theories of personal freedom to the people who (used to) live in Kiribati.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/c...-ask-fijians-for-new-home-20120308-1unan.html

"Villagers with seawater lapping at their feet have been forced to abandon settlements. Freshwater supplies and crops have been ruined by salt water, while storms are causing shoreline erosion."

 

[AndyH]

Maybe one of the deniers should explain their theories of personal freedom to the people who (used to) live in Kiribati.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/c...-ask-fijians-for-new-home-20120308-1unan.html

"Villagers with seawater lapping at their feet have been forced to abandon settlements. Freshwater supplies and crops have been ruined by salt water, while storms are causing shoreline erosion."

Brilliant Fabio! Or if nationalism is an issue, how about these Americans? We've already got US territory falling into the ocean.

http://unc.news21.com/index.php/stories/alaska.html

 

[Herm]

after a 20 second google:

http://autonomousmind.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/kiribati-sea-level-story-dr-nils-axel-morner-responds-exclusively/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Once again the media rushes to print with an alarmist piece that is completely devoid of balance or contrary opinion and which completely ignores the overtly political motivations and background of what has been shared with the press. The dramatisation of Earth’s ever changing climate for ulterior political motives needs to be challenged.

How long will it be also before people start to hold the media to account for acting as the propagandist mouthpiece of government and vested interests?"

from 2000, link from the same article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1035489.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"If the burning of fossil fuels is forcing the Earth to warm up, the rapid rise in sea levels that some expect from the thermal expansion of the oceans has yet to show itself clearly."

 

[Fabio]

after a 20 second google:
http://autonomousmind.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/kiribati-sea-level-story-dr-nils-axel-morner-responds-exclusively/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I see your 20 sec google search and raise with my 10 sec google search:

"Nils-Axel Mörner is Wrong About Sea Level Rise"
http://www.skepticalscience.com/news.php?n=1153" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Current president of the INQUA commission on Coastal and Marine Processes, Professor Roland Gehrels of the University of Plymouth, says his view do not represent 99% of its members, and the organisation has previously stated that it is "distressed" that Mörner continues to falsely "represent himself in his former capacity."

 

[klapauzius]

Which again proves: The internet is not real! You have to check where your information comes from. Otherwise we will end up in a new electronic equivalent of the Dark Age....I think this absurd climate debate in this country already points toward something like this.

Herm, doesnt it give you the slightest pause, that most other relevant countries outside the US dont have this climate debate?

 

[Stoaty]

Watching Herm twist and turn the science is like driving by a serious highway accident--you know you shouldn't slow down to look at the possibly injured or dead, but there is a morbid fascination about what has just occurred so you succumb to temptation.

 

[Herm]

Herm, doesnt it give you the slightest pause, that most other relevant countries outside the US dont have this climate debate?

LA LA LA I'm not hearing you

 

[AndyH]

Here's a link to a PDF and MP3 version of a 2010 presentation to Republicans for Environmental Protection by Katharine Hayhoe:
http://www.rep.org/climate_presentation.html

Here are three grabs from her PDF. The first two show American climate refugees:





And the third shows, I think, the root cause for the emergence of the US disinformation campaign - our inability to take personal responsibility:

 

[klapauzius]

Herm, doesnt it give you the slightest pause, that most other relevant countries outside the US dont have this climate debate?

LA LA LA I'm not hearing you

 

[Fabio]

Herm, doesnt it give you the slightest pause, that most other relevant countries outside the US dont have this climate debate?

LA LA LA I'm not hearing you

 

[Stoaty]

LA LA LA I'm not hearing you

Herm, is this a parody of your own position? :lol:

 

[AndyH]

It’s come out recently that Carleton University in Ottawa has had a fossil fuel lobbyist teaching what amounts to a course in climate denialism for two years. The discovery was made by scientific watchdog group The Committee for Scientific Skepticism, with cooperation from the Canadian branch of the Centre for Inquiry. Their full report was published on February 28, 2012.

The report reveals that the instructor, Tom Harris, has been teaching outright falsehoods and climate denialist talking points since he took over the course in 2009. Harris is affiliated with the Heartland Institute, an American climate deniers’ think tank, and several other fossil fuel lobbying organizations, including the innocuously-named International Climate Science Coalition, of which he is executive director.

http://www.care2.com/causes/climate-denier-teaches-university-climate-science-course.html

 

[Fabio]

The Union of Concerned Scientists just released a report:
http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/docume.../how-corporations-corrupt-science-summary.pdf

Dr. Ingacio Chapela of the University of California–Berkeley and graduate student David Quist published an article in Nature showing that DNA from genetically modified corn was contaminating native Mexican corn. The research spurred immediate backlash. Nature received a number of letters to the editor, including several comments on the Internet from "Mary Murphy" and "Andura Smetacek" accusing the scientists of bias. The backlash prompted Nature to publish an editorial agreeing that the report should not have been published. However, investigators eventually discovered that the comments from Murphy and Smetacek originated with The Bivings Group, a public relations firm that specializes in online communications and had worked for Monstanto. Mary Murphy and Andura Smetacek were found to be fictional names.

Now it's time to ask: Can we see Herm's full form birth certificate? :lol: :lol: :lol:

The report reveals that the instructor, Tom Harris, has been teaching outright falsehoods and climate denialist talking points since he took over the course in 2009. Harris is affiliated with the Heartland Institute [...]

 

[AndyH]

Stumbled on this today. It seems that at least one researcher had mailed a package to the IRS requesting a review of the Heartland Institute's tax-exempt status prior to the release of the documents obtained directly from Heartland by Dr. Gleick.

http://bbickmore.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/deniergate-breaks/

Mere hours after Mashey sent his documentation to the IRS, an anonymous person dropped a bunch of purloined Heartland documents on the laps of a number of climate bloggers and reporters. These documents confirm much of what Mashey found out by other means, but also name names and contain a few embarrassing turns of phrase.

http://deepclimate.org/2012/02/14/heartland-budget-and-strategy-documents-revealed/#comment-11677
http://www.desmogblog.com/fake-science-fakexperts-funny-finances-free-tax

 

[Herm]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328564.800-sinking-land-shows-east-antarctic-ice-sheet-is-stable.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"THE East Antarctic ice sheet looks unlikely to release its frozen grip any time soon. A new model suggests that prehistoric sea-level rise long thought to have been caused by the ice sheet melting was actually the result of local subsidence.

About 400,000 years ago, Earth went through a warm interglacial period similar to today's. The geological record shows traces of beaches and marine fossils in areas of Bermuda and the Bahamas far from the coast, suggesting that sea level was 20 metres higher than now.

Global sea level could have been that high only if the East Antarctic ice sheet melted at the time, according to climate models. And that is odd: this ice sheet doesn't seem to have melted at any other point in its long history."

 

[edatoakrun]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328564.800-sinking-land-shows-east-antarctic-ice-sheet-is-stable.html

"THE East Antarctic ice sheet looks unlikely to release its frozen grip any time soon. A new model suggests that prehistoric sea-level rise long thought to have been caused by the ice sheet melting was actually the result of local subsidence.

About 400,000 years ago, Earth went through a warm interglacial period similar to today's. The geological record shows traces of beaches and marine fossils in areas of Bermuda and the Bahamas far from the coast, suggesting that sea level was 20 metres higher than now.

Global sea level could have been that high only if the East Antarctic ice sheet melted at the time, according to climate models. And that is odd: this ice sheet doesn't seem to have melted at any other point in its long history."

Come on Herm, you can do better than that:

...Stefan Rahmstorf at Potsdam University in Germany had thought that sea levels may at one time have been 20 metres higher all around the world. "The data were rather puzzling - now it all makes much more sense," he says. Raymo notes: "Saying that sea level isn't going up 20 metres does not mean that it only going up 10 metres is a good thing."

Have you run out of flat-earthers to quote, so now you have to leave off the conclusion of, the sources you post?

Of course, just the much smaller sea level rise we can expect soon, will be a massive disaster.

About 3.7 million Americans live within a few feet of high tide and risk being hit by more frequent coastal flooding in coming decades because of the sea level rise caused by global warming, according to new research.

If the pace of the rise accelerates as much as expected, researchers found, coastal flooding at levels that were once exceedingly rare could become an every-few-years occurrence by the middle of this century.

By far the most vulnerable state is Florida, the new analysis found, with roughly half of the nation’s at-risk population living near the coast on the porous, low-lying limestone shelf that constitutes much of that state. But Louisiana, California, New York and New Jersey are also particularly vulnerable, researchers found, and virtually the entire American coastline is at some degree of risk...

The rise appears to have accelerated lately, to a rate of about a foot per century, and many scientists expect a further acceleration as the warming of the planet continues. One estimate that communities are starting to use for planning purposes suggests the ocean could rise a foot over the next 40 years, though that calculation is not universally accepted among climate scientists...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/science/earth/study-rising-sea-levels-a-risk-to-coastal-states.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[AndyH]

Herm - do NOT let the movie play past 40 seconds.



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6szDWFeT5dw[/youtube]

 

[TomT]

Good thing I live at 1,500 feet! :lol:

About 3.7 million Americans live within a few feet of high tide and risk being hit by more frequent coastal flooding in coming decades because of the sea level rise caused by global warming, according to new research.

 

[AndyH]

Science Educators Struggles...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR0O3Lmttho[/youtube]

 

[davewill]

Well, it's good to see that Heartland Institute is staying classy and sticking to the merits of their position:

A billboard paid for by the free-market-promoting Heartland Institute links climate change belief with mass murders such as the Unabomber. This billboard went up in the Chicago area on May 4.

New Billboards Compare Climate Scientists and Unabomber, Mass Murderers