Here's a 14 minute LEAF test drive video which also walks through all the gauges as well as the NAV & info center. It's not a real polished professional video but is very informative IMHO.
I agree and it seems to look even better in person. I really like the side rear line sweeping upwards, that's unique and distinguishable. Also, I'm particular about the C pillars on vehicles. I like a sail versus a thin pillar or no pillar (wrap around glass). I always thought the 1969 Camaro had the perfect C pillar.mwalsh said:The more I see this car in motion, the more it's lines grow on me.
I am the first to admit that I'm not the smartest cookie in the box, but I do not believe you are correct here. First off, you might be right that it's way too aggressive a projection. Second, you are also correct that you can't gain more miles from braking than you can get from accelerating or anything like that. However, the idea that your range could increase with a more aggressive regenerative braking is not magic. The original estimation of 83 miles is predicting that at least some of that will be due to regenerative braking. If you increase the aggressiveness of the regenerative braking then it is possible for the amount of miles you will be able to go will increase.LakeLeaf said:Unless you are converting potential energy (i.e. going downhill), the braking isn't going to increase the range of the car beyond what was there when you started it. If it could, it would truly be a magic car - every time your range gets low, just stand on the brake and you'll then be able to go further :lol:
gudy said:I think that the 16.7 miles / kWh is complete non-sense, and has to be a bug.
evnow said:gudy said:I think that the 16.7 miles / kWh is complete non-sense, and has to be a bug.
Not really - going down on a slight decline, you can defintely get that. Infact you can get even -ve values, depending on how they show instantaneous m/kwh during regen.
Frank said:Maybe. But the display shows that 16.7 miles/kWh is the average, not the theoretical maximum.
evnow said:Frank said:Maybe. But the display shows that 16.7 miles/kWh is the average, not the theoretical maximum.
I thought the 16.7 miles/kWh is the "instantaneous" usage, not the average.
Frank said:This is a great video for viewing the LCD screen and buttons closely. This is the first time I have noticed the passenger air bag indicator below the HVAC controls.
But I am having trouble understanding the relationship between the estimated remaining miles of range displayed, and the average miles/kWh number displayed. At 4:50 minutes into the video it shows an average of 16.7 miles/kWh and remaining miles of 67. How are these two numbers related? If the pack capacity is 24 kWh, and say only 20 kWhs are usable, wouldn't 16.7 times 20 kWhs equal 334 remaining miles of range? I realize that the car was driven a little bit before these numbers are shown but the car did start off with a full charge as shown at the beginning of the video. I obviously am not understanding what these numbers mean so can someone help me out here?
leaffan said:Frank said:This is a great video for viewing the LCD screen and buttons closely. This is the first time I have noticed the passenger air bag indicator below the HVAC controls.
But I am having trouble understanding the relationship between the estimated remaining miles of range displayed, and the average miles/kWh number displayed. At 4:50 minutes into the video it shows an average of 16.7 miles/kWh and remaining miles of 67. How are these two numbers related? If the pack capacity is 24 kWh, and say only 20 kWhs are usable, wouldn't 16.7 times 20 kWhs equal 334 remaining miles of range? I realize that the car was driven a little bit before these numbers are shown but the car did start off with a full charge as shown at the beginning of the video. I obviously am not understanding what these numbers mean so can someone help me out here?
Just a small correction...24Kwh is the USEABLE capacity, not the full battery capacity. So 80% of 30kwh would give you the 24kwh useable capacity.
gudy said:Either it's a short average (ie, last 10 seconds), or they have a bug.
edit : if you look at the video, you will see that the scale for the "instant" miles / kWh goes from 0 to 8 and doesn't seem to be dynamic (ok, over only about 3 seconds where you get to see it). 8 miles / kWh, based on 24kWh usable is still 192 miles, which is a LOT, but that scale makes more sense than their average.
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