greengate
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Was this Rauner's doing?Phatcat73 said:The 50 % evse state rebate is suspended unfortunately.
Was this Rauner's doing?Phatcat73 said:The 50 % evse state rebate is suspended unfortunately.
Phatcat73 said:The 50 % evse state rebate is suspended unfortunately.
gray said:Phatcat73 said:The 50 % evse state rebate is suspended unfortunately.
Are you sure it's the EVSE rebate that's suspended? From what I can see, it's the $4k EV state rebate that's on hold. The DECO's EV Infrastructure Rebate Program seems to be unchanged?
EV rebate (IL Alternative Fuel rebate program): http://www.illinoisgreenfleets.org/rebates/index" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
EVSE rebate (EV Infrastructure Rebate Program): http://www.illinois.gov/dceo/whyillinois/KeyIndustries/Energy/Pages/ev.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This is the new State of Illinois Capital building and the governor's residence.greengate said:Was this Rauner's doing?Phatcat73 said:The 50 % evse state rebate is suspended unfortunately.
Have you had the battery check performed?ishiyakazuo said:I'm curious about my battery life compared to others' in the area... I've got an uninsulated garage, and when I bought the car (fairly nice day in the 50s, mid-March), they charged it to 100% using the L1 EVSE the car came with, and it read 85 miles remaining in D mode. On that trip, I took it across the suburbs on roads with 45mph speed limits, and plenty of stops, and a little bit on I-290 (up to about 70mph), and I went 29 miles and the GOM said 52 at the end.
I charged it on a L2 EVSE last night to 100%, and it said 82 miles remaining when I started out this morning. My commute is about 80% highway (if not more), 20 miles one-way, and it says 50 miles remaining (in D) at the end, with 8/12 charge bars remaining.
Is this pretty typical for a car that still has 12/12 capacity bars? I seem to remember some people saying that when they start the car, it reports over 100 miles remaining, so I'm wondering if it's temperature-related, or if I'm pretty close to losing that first bar. (Maybe both?) I just thought I'd like to hear how others have fared in Chicagoland over the past couple of weeks.
ishiyakazuo said:I'm curious about my battery life compared to others' in the area... I've got an uninsulated garage, and when I bought the car (fairly nice day in the 50s, mid-March), they charged it to 100% using the L1 EVSE the car came with, and it read 85 miles remaining in D mode. On that trip, I took it across the suburbs on roads with 45mph speed limits, and plenty of stops, and a little bit on I-290 (up to about 70mph), and I went 29 miles and the GOM said 52 at the end.
I charged it on a L2 EVSE last night to 100%, and it said 82 miles remaining when I started out this morning. My commute is about 80% highway (if not more), 20 miles one-way, and it says 50 miles remaining (in D) at the end, with 8/12 charge bars remaining.
Is this pretty typical for a car that still has 12/12 capacity bars? I seem to remember some people saying that when they start the car, it reports over 100 miles remaining, so I'm wondering if it's temperature-related, or if I'm pretty close to losing that first bar. (Maybe both?) I just thought I'd like to hear how others have fared in Chicagoland over the past couple of weeks.
Not yet. Going to take it to the local dealer soon to get that done. Also waiting on a Bluetooth OBD-II device so I can check it out with Leaf Spy.greengate said:Have you had the battery check performed?
OK, so it sounds like things are pretty typical on mine. My commute is about 33 miles of highway (I-90, under construction, so I'm going 55-60 most of the time), 7 miles city (and most of that is 35-45mph roads), and when I leave in the morning (80% charge) I have about 72 miles, and end up with ~15-20, according to the GOM. Usually from 10 bars, I end up with 2 remaining, and if I give it a little goose in the morning (override the timer to get ~90%), I go from 11 bars down to 3.redLEAF said:First off, the GOM (guess-o'-meter) on the dash indicating remaining range is simply that; it will constantly change based on the last drive you took as well as ambient temp, etc., etc. Ours is a '12 with 28K miles over 39 months; our garage is semi-heated (about 60 F most times). Being a '12; I can set the charge to 80% during the week days and 100% on the weekends when we do lots of errands. It's been a bit intermittent, but I lose my first bar in just a few miles when I charge to 80% but it will typically take awhile longer at 100%. Yesterday was particularly mild in Chicago 70 to 73 F so I noticed the battery temp when up from 4 to 5 bars. My work commute is just a tad under 30 miles R/T; typical suburban mix -- yesterday started at an indicated 80 miles of range and ended at 39 miles of range; you would think it should be 50 right?
On one other trip (my son was driving; again charged to 80%) last week with temps around freezing; his was a 32 mile R/T commute and due to an accident with lots of stop & go traffic, he returned to the garage with only 19 miles of range (only using the heated seats and steering wheel) so range can vary a lot.
ishiyakazuo said:Not yet. Going to take it to the local dealer soon to get that done. Also waiting on a Bluetooth OBD-II device so I can check it out with Leaf Spy.greengate said:Have you had the battery check performed?
OK, so it sounds like things are pretty typical on mine. My commute is about 33 miles of highway (I-90, under construction, so I'm going 55-60 most of the time), 7 miles city (and most of that is 35-45mph roads), and when I leave in the morning (80% charge) I have about 72 miles, and end up with ~15-20, according to the GOM. Usually from 10 bars, I end up with 2 remaining, and if I give it a little goose in the morning (override the timer to get ~90%), I go from 11 bars down to 3.redLEAF said:First off, the GOM (guess-o'-meter) on the dash indicating remaining range is simply that; it will constantly change based on the last drive you took as well as ambient temp, etc., etc. Ours is a '12 with 28K miles over 39 months; our garage is semi-heated (about 60 F most times). Being a '12; I can set the charge to 80% during the week days and 100% on the weekends when we do lots of errands. It's been a bit intermittent, but I lose my first bar in just a few miles when I charge to 80% but it will typically take awhile longer at 100%. Yesterday was particularly mild in Chicago 70 to 73 F so I noticed the battery temp when up from 4 to 5 bars. My work commute is just a tad under 30 miles R/T; typical suburban mix -- yesterday started at an indicated 80 miles of range and ended at 39 miles of range; you would think it should be 50 right?
On one other trip (my son was driving; again charged to 80%) last week with temps around freezing; his was a 32 mile R/T commute and due to an accident with lots of stop & go traffic, he returned to the garage with only 19 miles of range (only using the heated seats and steering wheel) so range can vary a lot.
It's the change of consciousness that troubles me. Before long we will be burning the furniture for heat and selling off anything that's left in the public domain...and there's probably a politician there waiting to benefit from the manufacturing and selling of face masks.redLEAF said:On a topic that lamented the end to the IL EPA EV incentives; I was curious how much was given back to IL residents, how many EV's, etc. and was able to find this ...
'Illinois kicked off its Alternate Fuels Rebate Program in 1998 and, through 2013, has doled out more than $14 million worth of rebates to buyers of more than 13,000 alternative-fuel vehicles. The state even touts its role in getting people to buy enough alt-fuel vehicles to cut collective fuel use by more than six million gallons.'
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/03/31/illinois-pulls-plug-on-state-funded-rebates-for-electric-vehicle/
The early part of the program covered a lot of home-built EV conversions, etc. as 'pure 100% electric power' special plates have only recently topped the 3,000 mark (as evidenced by their sequential nature but a number of LEAF's and Tesla's, etc. opt instead for vanity and/or other types of special plates) still, it was decent run. The 13K number includes more than just EV's as well and actually some PHEV (the Volt) were but the Ford C-Max Energi wasn't eligible under this program. I still feel bad for those that applied in 2014 and the funds were cutoff --- IL has far more worse deficit issues than these but it was good while it lasted.
ishiyakazuo said:Personally, I'd rather see the State of Illinois beef up the charging infrastructure than offer an incentive to get more of the cars on the road, because I think that is more effective in changing people's minds about the feasibility of the tech. From an environmental perspective, if they really wanted to do good for the environment, they'd offer an incentive on used BEVs so that many of them didn't rust in dealer lots...
ishiyakazuo said:Yeah, a RAV4 EV would be amazing. I'd definitely be interested in something along those lines. (Even Soul EV would be nice...)
BTW, just to clarify I'm not saying that those things are feasible, but I believe they'd do more to increase the number of BEVs on the road than the IL $4k incentive on new purchases ever would. You do make a good point about leaving the planning of those charging stations in the hands of those who planned the roads around here, though...
brianchi73 said:ishiyakazuo said:Yeah, a RAV4 EV would be amazing. I'd definitely be interested in something along those lines. (Even Soul EV would be nice...)
BTW, just to clarify I'm not saying that those things are feasible, but I believe they'd do more to increase the number of BEVs on the road than the IL $4k incentive on new purchases ever would. You do make a good point about leaving the planning of those charging stations in the hands of those who planned the roads around here, though...
The Fast Charging situation is getting better thanks to eVgo. They are the ones who bought and inherited the mess that 350 Green left, and it took well over a year for all of that to happen. I talked to the eVgo guys at the Chicago Auto Show. First they have brought all of the existing L3 stations back online. Second they are going to start replacing the old L3 chargers with new ones where they can get real-time status about the charger's availability. Also the new chargers have a plug that is MUCH easier to use. They let me try it out on the Leaf at the Auto Show.
Those are big improvements, and hopefully their chargers will be connected to an app or website like ChargePoint where you can not only see the up/down status but also see if the chargers are being used, etc.
JohnTomaszewski said:brianchi73 said:ishiyakazuo said:Yeah, a RAV4 EV would be amazing. I'd definitely be interested in something along those lines. (Even Soul EV would be nice...)
BTW, just to clarify I'm not saying that those things are feasible, but I believe they'd do more to increase the number of BEVs on the road than the IL $4k incentive on new purchases ever would. You do make a good point about leaving the planning of those charging stations in the hands of those who planned the roads around here, though...
The Fast Charging situation is getting better thanks to eVgo. They are the ones who bought and inherited the mess that 350 Green left, and it took well over a year for all of that to happen. I talked to the eVgo guys at the Chicago Auto Show. First they have brought all of the existing L3 stations back online. Second they are going to start replacing the old L3 chargers with new ones where they can get real-time status about the charger's availability. Also the new chargers have a plug that is MUCH easier to use. They let me try it out on the Leaf at the Auto Show.
Those are big improvements, and hopefully their chargers will be connected to an app or website like ChargePoint where you can not only see the up/down status but also see if the chargers are being used, etc.
I sure hope so, because many of the re-branded 350 Green eVgo L3 stations on the Oasis centers on the highway are in disrepair. The handles are broken on several and the one n/b O'Hare hasn't worked at all in months - despite reporting it several times. Even after reporting broken equipment it does not seem to do any good. Forget about emailing; they rarely reply. Message them on FB? They don't reply either. I would hope this is just because they plan on replacing them all, but in the meantime it is a PITA trying to take a highway trip of any distance because their L3 stations are not reliable enough. The one at n/b O'Hare almost left me stranded back in January (it's still broken) and I called ahead of time; they assured me it was fixed (yeah, right). Thank goodness the one at PNC Bank worked and was a short distance away. I don't want to hate on this company as prior to the acquisition the only L3 chargers around were at a few Nissan dealers and the free one at IIT in Chicago, so it IS better than before. If they would keep their stuff working it would be great!
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