Stunt822 said:Maybe some one gave it some thought, or has some arguments/analogies - what could possibly used , let's say off lease Leaf drll for?
mitch672 said:it really depnds on 4 factors:
listed most important to least important:
#1 replacement cost for the battery back in 3 years. Certainly the original pack will have some diminished capacity, how much will a replacement cost?
#2 Is there still a $7500 federal rebate? Not likely, so this is bound to push the price up
#3 What is the new model (2014) Leaf selling for? Are there any major pack improvements, such as increased battery life or charge cycles or capacity? These will tend to lower the price of a used Gen 1 Leaf. Of course along with this the new model pricing will also come into play.
#4 What is the demand? who would buy a 3 year old EV? they would have to accept a reduced capacity battery, so around town use would be fine, local cab company's etc might be in the market, etc.
I think those are most of the factors, time will tell the rest of the story.
Boomer23 said:mitch672 said:it really depnds on 4 factors:
listed most important to least important:
#1 replacement cost for the battery back in 3 years. Certainly the original pack will have some diminished capacity, how much will a replacement cost?
#2 Is there still a $7500 federal rebate? Not likely, so this is bound to push the price up
#3 What is the new model (2014) Leaf selling for? Are there any major pack improvements, such as increased battery life or charge cycles or capacity? These will tend to lower the price of a used Gen 1 Leaf. Of course along with this the new model pricing will also come into play.
#4 What is the demand? who would buy a 3 year old EV? they would have to accept a reduced capacity battery, so around town use would be fine, local cab company's etc might be in the market, etc.
I think those are most of the factors, time will tell the rest of the story.
And #5: What is the public opinion of EVs in general and LEAF in particular in 3 years? Remember the high regard in which Toyota products were held for many years until this year's spate of poor publicity. Now Toyota is having a hard time with sales. They're giving away free maintenance plans and spending millions on advertising to recoup some of their previous image. Nobody has any way of knowing what the used car buying public will think of a used LEAF in 3 years. [A big reason why I'm leasing.]
And #6: What is the cost of gasoline and have we had a fuel crisis by then?
gudy said:In california, carpool stickers are also going to play a role.
I personally know a guy who bought a brand new prius about 2 years ago, to the exact specs of what an existing prius owner wanted, simply to exchange the two cars because the "old" prius had the carpool sticker on it.
I don't know how many of the new stickers are going to be allocated for pure electric vehicles, but when they run out, cars with the sticker might be worth (to some) as much as a brand new model.
There's a lot of money in the bay area (and LA), but there aren't that many ways that this money can help you save 1 hour of commute everyday... that is worth a lot to people with no time and lots of money.
xRB said:Most potential buyers will not have chargers, so how many will be willing to put up $2000+ to buy a charger for a used car?
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