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Kieran973 said:Now that it's been out for a little while, can any Leaf Plus owners comment on real world highway range?
I'm particularly wondering two things:
1. What are the warm weather real world highway ranges of the S Plus vs the SV Plus (with the All-Weather Package)? Let's say the conditions are 65 mph, 70 degrees F ambient, AC set to 70 F with fan speed at 2 bars, relatively flat roads, no precipitation, and little to no headwinds.
2. What are the cold weather real world highway ranges of the S Plus vs the SV Plus (with the All-Weather Package)? Let's say the conditions are 65 mph, 30 degrees F ambient, heat set to 70 F with fan speed at 2 bars, relatively flat roads, no precipitation, and little to no headwinds.
In my own 40 kWh SV, the real world range under the conditions in question 1 is about 150 miles and under the conditions in question 2 about 120 miles. So about exactly EPA range in ideal warm weather conditions and about 80% of EPA range in moderate winter conditions. Can the same be said of the S Plus and SV Plus? Since the SV Plus with All-Weather Package has a heat pump while the S Plus does not, is the S Plus' winter range less than 80% EPA? Ultimately, the reason I'm asking is I'm trying to get a ballpark idea of how different it would be to make 250ish mile drives (NYC to Boston, NYC to DC) in the 40 kWh Leaf vs the 62 kWh Leaf.
webeleafowners said:For us in our 2016 SV it is more a matter of needing defrost than heat. If we could set the temperature at 14 or 15 we would. Wintertime means we have multiple layers on and 20-22 (70 ish in Fahrenheit????) is just too freakin warm.
Most speed limits in the bc interior are 90 to 110 mph even on the Trans Canada highway. Getting rated EPA range is EASY in warmer weather. One of our routes we take fairly often is Vernon to Penticton. Something like 115 kmh. We usually pull into the Penticton Chademo with over 50 percent in warm weather or 40 ish percent in cooler weather. Lots of little towns along the way that slow you down to 50 or 60 kmh. Speed kills range. I’m willing to bet that in the conditions we drive 400 km of range will be doable in the SL plus...albeit unnecessary as there are no shortage of DCFC in the province. Even specific trips we do of 445 km are not inconvenient in a 30KWH Leaf. Mostly because I have a prostate the size of a grapefruit and I like my Starbucks...so frequent stops are a thing. .
Just my two bits.
DougWantsALeaf said:Between steering wheel heater and seat heater, unless kids are in the back, or wife in shotgun, I don't touch the heat until its in single digits F.
dmacarthur said:Your ranges sound right, your climate is a bit warmer, and I might have a few years on you as well! Off-topic, I spent some time in Kotzebue in the early seventies (before the pipeline), have felt that cold all I want to!
DougWantsALeaf said:New record charging rate today:
Thank you for charging with Electrify America.
Assistance: 1-833-632-2778
12/07/2019 04:39:26 PM
Lincolnwood Town Center
3333 W Touhy Ave.
Lincolnwood, Illinois 60712
Charger #200014-01
Connector #2
Total paid: $6.30
Session ID: 147782
Charging pricing: $1.00/session + $0.25/minute (pre-tax)
Charging cost: $6.30
Discount: $0.00
Idling: $0.00 ($0.40/min)
Sales tax (0%): $0.00
End state of charge: 50%
Total energy delivered: 23.4 kWh
Max charging rate: 75.96 kW
Charging time: 00:21:12
Grace period: 00:11 min
Paid idle time: 00:00
75 to about 19%
67kWh at 35%
62 kw at 40%
60 kWh at 43%
58 kW at 45%
56kW at 48%
55kW at 50%
webeleafowners said:DougWantsALeaf said:New record charging rate today:
Thank you for charging with Electrify America.
Assistance: 1-833-632-2778
12/07/2019 04:39:26 PM
Lincolnwood Town Center
3333 W Touhy Ave.
Lincolnwood, Illinois 60712
Charger #200014-01
Connector #2
Total paid: $6.30
Session ID: 147782
Charging pricing: $1.00/session + $0.25/minute (pre-tax)
Charging cost: $6.30
Discount: $0.00
Idling: $0.00 ($0.40/min)
Sales tax (0%): $0.00
End state of charge: 50%
Total energy delivered: 23.4 kWh
Max charging rate: 75.96 kW
Charging time: 00:21:12
Grace period: 00:11 min
Paid idle time: 00:00
75 to about 19%
67kWh at 35%
62 kw at 40%
60 kWh at 43%
58 kW at 45%
56kW at 48%
55kW at 50%
Thanks Doug. Hey was that on a 50 kW machine? They seem to underate them.
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