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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    What I heard today is about the best evidence I can think of that Nissan is really not really interested in serving the electric car market. GM will pay a $900 million fine to end a criminal investigation into its failure to order a recall of a faulty ignition switches. This should put to rest...
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    My Nissan Dealer experience

    I recently damaged my EVSE, so while I waited for a new Clipper Creek LCS-25P to arrive I needed a charge. So I thought I would go to my local Nissan dealer from whom I had leased my 2013 Leaf. When I arrived I noticed that the pavement next to the two level-2 chargers was painted with white...
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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    I honestly don't understand the point of this post. I don't doubt for a minute that the anecdote you describe is truthful. In fact, there is pretty much nothing you write here that I disagree with, except the really weird claim that "The study is not really the point for extreme cold weather...
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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    Do you know if the L3 chargers are open 24/7 or only available during the dealer's business hours?
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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    Now I think that you are missing my point. The whole purpose of the study was to document the average or typical experience of driving the Leaf in cold weather, not to warn drivers that under, as you put it, "worst case" conditions the numbers would be different. Of course, they would be...
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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    No, I am not missing your point at all. You can always build a particular set of conditions into a test that will provide an atypical result. If you get 25 miles of start-stop range in cold weather, then that is considerably at odds with the reported experience of the people in the study I...
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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    For those of you who are content with the Leaf in the limited role of a commuting city car, you should be pleased by the leak of what's in store for 2016--a 25% increase in range. http://insideevs.com/2016-nissan-leaf-get-25-larger-battery/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; This...
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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    This is not MY report and the data was not limited to the specific conditions you allude to. This data is based on a study http://www.fleetcarma.com/nissan-leaf-chevrolet-volt-cold-weather-range-loss-electric-vehicle/ of 2,000 trips by Leaf owners under a variety of conditions. The 50-mile range...
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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    This leaves out all consumers who 1) Live in an apartment or condo and do not have a private garage for charging. 2) Do not want to buy a second car to make their EV practical. This is a strategy of failure. No car will ever widely successful under these conditions. On the other hand, a PHEV...
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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    I agree with most of what you write here, except the conclusion. Without an adequate charging infrastructure, EVs will NEVER have wide adoption regardless of any other factors. Consumers already pay more than $6 a gallon in Europe and have for a long time. The price of gas is one factor in the...
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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    This is NOT about business risk, at least not the way you frame it. Nissan had an operating profit last year of 5 billion dollars. A 20 million dollar investment in a charging network would be a rounding error for them. Somehow Tesla manages it with MUCH smaller operating capital. There is...
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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    As I have written several times now, a quick charger network is really useful when and ONLY when you have a car with substantially greater EV range than the current Leaf. The US could have 10,000 CHAdeMO chargers and it wouldn't make much difference now because an 80-mile range car simply isn't...
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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    On what do you base this comment? I mean, just exactly which long-range "lower priced mass-market BEV" are you referring to? They don't yet exist. Currently, the range difference between these cars is so small that it just doesn't matter. Do you really believe that a 150-mile or 200-mile BEV at...
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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    Surely, you exaggerate. Studies on the Leaf (http://news.fleetcarma.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Leaf_Range_Cold_Weather_FleetCarma.png" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) indicate that its range drops to about 50 miles in sub zero weather (not 30-40 miles). A CHAdeMO charger will...
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    I don't really understand Nissan's Strategy

    You are absolutely correct. Clearly this guy is just taking a position to be provocative. His post should not be taken seriously.
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