So, just to be clear: we can't talk about capacity loss in the 2011-21012 Leaf as it compares to the early 2013 and 4/13+ Leafs, and you also want the last word on that subject? Got it!
dhanson865 said:dm33 said:Enormous epirical evidence clearly shows that chemistry was improved around April 2013. Batteries after that time degrade MUCH slower than those before.dhanson865 said:Nissan reps and executives have said on more than one occasion that the 2013 rev was a packaging change more than a chemistry change and that the 2013 packs didn't change chemistry significantly.
We had a early 2013 that was totaled and replaced with a later 2013. It was day and night difference. The early 2013 degraded more in 6 months and 6,000 miles than the second car did in almost 3 years and 36,000 miles.
No, empirical evidence shows that degradation was reduced after build dates of 04/13. Chemistry is not the only thing that could be changed. Nissan stated that chemistry did not change significantly so it's reasonable to assume it's another factor or factors.
Again this is off topic in this thread and should be taken to another thread if you wish to continue discussing it.
sub3marathonman said:As a seven capacity bar loser, with five remaining, I am definitely hoping the new batteries that Nissan just installed under warranty for me are more than just a repackaged mix of the defective properties of the original batteries.
flybinne said:New to Leaf spy, charge to 100% yield ~90% SOC
Is this normal?
after charging the car overnight to 100%, I check the following night and I'm at:
88.1% SOC,
185 GIDFs (65.8%),
14.3KWh
41.65Ah
390.5V, at 81 degree F.
This is a 2011, with 24k miles with 60 months set to expire in January 2017
and I only have lost 2 bars so far, a long way to 8..., I live in Texas and I have babied the battery from the beginning (80% charge), and now, I think I'll end with a lemon, as I'll miss the boat for the battery replacement.
Is it normal that charging to 100% only yield 90-91% SOC.
I'm about to give the car to my sister in Canada, as a winter ride (I know the pack is not thermally protected).
She just have a 25 miles commute, but wonder what the cold will do...
Any thought?
sorry I cross posted to Range / Efficiency / Carwings before I found this thread
Not abnormal if you are charging to 100% from over 80%. Discharge the battery more and then do a 100% charge, get it down around 40%.flybinne said:New to Leaf spy, charge to 100% yield ~90% SOC
flybinne said:Here's after a L2 charge to full from 8.4KWh
peakay said:Its at 10 bars now, been almost a year since we lost the 2nd -- how likely do you think i is we'll see 8 bars by 1/8/18? We put about 10k mile sa year on the car the last 2 years.
peakay said:Ah, good question. Coastal southern California. Doesn't get too hot here but we can start quick charging more.
Marktm said:LeafSpy data from my 2012 Leaf. I lost the 4th bar a couple of weeks ago. The "battery cells" screen shot is after completing a level 2 charge. The Leaf has been in hot, Texas climate since originally leased in Sept of 2012. Nissan has ordered a new battery for replacement - likely in December time-frame.
arnis said:If you drop to 8 bars before 5 years and 60 000 miles
you will get replacement.
atikovi said:arnis said:If you drop to 8 bars before 5 years and 60 000 miles
you will get replacement.
Yes but isn't the warranty 8 years or 100,000 miles? What happens at say 80,000 miles if your range is down to just 10 miles? They won't replace the battery?
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