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Re: Goodbye JOULEE 3 :(

Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:08 pm

A couple have greater damage to the rear. Looks like they were pushed into something?
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Re: Goodbye JOULEE 3 :(

Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:55 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
LEAFfan wrote:I'm glad you're okay. How fast were you going? There is a thread about going fast in the HOV when there is slower traffic next to it. What about the other driver and their car? What part of their car did you hit? If you hit it in the rear, it's your fault.


oh ya right! what about failure to yield? if that is all it took to get some one elses insurance to buy me a new car, then I would have done it years ago.


Yep, if you hit them in the rear, you will be cited for NACD. If you hit them on the side, it's FTY on their part.
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Re: Goodbye JOULEE 3 :(

Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:33 pm

TonyWilliams wrote:
GregH wrote:For those interested.. Joulee 3 (vin 3877) will be auctioned off by Insurance Auto Auctions

https://www.iaai.com/Vehicles/Search.aspx?RefinerSetName=Loss+Type&RefinerName=Collision

Click on Automobiles, Nissan, Leaf.. There are 9 cars in the database!


I think I'll bid.


Charge port, inverter, motor, battery (albeit only 245 Gids or so) all in good shape.. 17985mi. odo.

My insurance waived the deductible based on the damage (my front right, his rear left). He was still in the process of entering the carpool lane at the time of impact. Not sure how the insurance companies handled the costs between them. They paid me $1805 and Nissan $22,717. Nissan quotes my cost to buy out the lease at $21259.30. We'll see if I can recover any of that difference when negotiating for a new 2012 (or 2013) lease...
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Re: Goodbye JOULEE 3 :(

Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:54 pm

Interesting addendum to this story...

I Called Nissan Motor Acceptance Co today to verify they got the Mercury insurance check and had closed out my lease. I asked about the difference between the amount Mercury had to pay ($22,717) and what the Nissan dealer had told me my buyout amount was ($21,259.30). He asked if I would like the overage amount!?!?! $1457.70? Heck yeah! He said they don't have a problem refunding the overage amount when customers request it... So I guess the lesson here is it pays to ask!

P.S. looks like they took a few pictures for the auction..
https://www.iaai.com/Vehicles/VehicleDetails.aspx?auctionID=0&itemID=14059994&RowNumber=7#
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Re: Goodbye JOULEE 3 :(

Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:38 pm

GregH wrote:... I asked about the difference between the amount Mercury had to pay ($22,717) and what the Nissan dealer had told me my buyout amount was ($21,259.30). He asked if I would like the overage amount!?!?! $1457.70? Heck yeah! He said they don't have a problem refunding the overage amount when customers request it... So I guess the lesson here is it pays to ask! ...
That is completely WHACK.
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Re: Goodbye JOULEE 3 :(

Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:44 pm

GregH wrote:Interesting addendum to this story...

I Called Nissan Motor Acceptance Co today to verify they got the Mercury insurance check and had closed out my lease. I asked about the difference between the amount Mercury had to pay ($22,717) and what the Nissan dealer had told me my buyout amount was ($21,259.30). He asked if I would like the overage amount!?!?! $1457.70? Heck yeah! He said they don't have a problem refunding the overage amount when customers request it... So I guess the lesson here is it pays to ask!

P.S. looks like they took a few pictures for the auction..
https://www.iaai.com/Vehicles/VehicleDetails.aspx?auctionID=0&itemID=14059994&RowNumber=7#


CA law requires payout of value of car plus sales tax and other vehicle and licensing fees that you would pay to state to register the replacement vehicle.
after all, you cant get a car that costs $21k for $21k, you have to pay about another 10-12% in sales taxes, fees and taxes. etc.
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Re: Goodbye JOULEE 3 :(

Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:00 pm

thankyouOB wrote:
GregH wrote:Interesting addendum to this story...

I Called Nissan Motor Acceptance Co today to verify they got the Mercury insurance check and had closed out my lease. I asked about the difference between the amount Mercury had to pay ($22,717) and what the Nissan dealer had told me my buyout amount was ($21,259.30). He asked if I would like the overage amount!?!?! $1457.70? Heck yeah! He said they don't have a problem refunding the overage amount when customers request it... So I guess the lesson here is it pays to ask!

P.S. looks like they took a few pictures for the auction..
https://www.iaai.com/Vehicles/VehicleDetails.aspx?auctionID=0&itemID=14059994&RowNumber=7#


CA law requires payout of value of car plus sales tax and other vehicle and licensing fees that you would pay to state to register the replacement vehicle.
after all, you cant get a car that costs $21k for $21k, you have to pay about another 10-12% in sales taxes, fees and taxes. etc.


Ok, that explains the separate $1800 check Mercury sent me directly (line items included $657.4 Lease tax, $15 DMV transfer fee and $133 VLF refund)... but not the $1457 overage amount Nissan made Mercury pay above and beyond my buyout price...

As Dave noted "completely WHACK".
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Re: Goodbye JOULEE 3 :(

Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:10 pm

GregH wrote:
thankyouOB wrote:
GregH wrote:Interesting addendum to this story...

I Called Nissan Motor Acceptance Co today to verify they got the Mercury insurance check and had closed out my lease. I asked about the difference between the amount Mercury had to pay ($22,717) and what the Nissan dealer had told me my buyout amount was ($21,259.30). He asked if I would like the overage amount!?!?! $1457.70? Heck yeah! He said they don't have a problem refunding the overage amount when customers request it... So I guess the lesson here is it pays to ask!

P.S. looks like they took a few pictures for the auction..
https://www.iaai.com/Vehicles/VehicleDetails.aspx?auctionID=0&itemID=14059994&RowNumber=7#


CA law requires payout of value of car plus sales tax and other vehicle and licensing fees that you would pay to state to register the replacement vehicle.
after all, you cant get a car that costs $21k for $21k, you have to pay about another 10-12% in sales taxes, fees and taxes. etc.


Ok, that explains the separate $1800 check Mercury sent me directly (line items included $657.4 Lease tax, $15 DMV transfer fee and $133 VLF refund)... but not the $1457 overage amount Nissan made Mercury pay above and beyond my buyout price...

As Dave noted "completely WHACK".


CA state law also requires the insurance company to go through a variety of calculations to determine the replacement value of the vehicle. it is not always going to be what your lease says it is.
it relates to the specific mileage, condition of the car, as well as comps on at least three similar vehicles.
there is an entire formula.

I had a 4-year-old volvo totaled a few years back and the insurance company wanted to pay me 17k for it.
after three months they paid more than 23k and i stopped fighting with them over the various registration fees for the replacement vehicle.
it was a long and difficult nightmare. i take it that Nissan works this with them all the time. i would do better the second and third time around, i can assure you of that.
my company was safeco. it was the worst auto insurance experience of my career in driving.
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Re: Goodbye JOULEE 3 :(

Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:23 pm

Greg. Thankful I found your post.

I have a somewhat similar situation, and I am hoping to get your guidance/advice.

Got into an accident about a month ago - State Farm determined that my LEAF is a total loss.

I've had the 2012 SL since January 2012, so 15 months. Only clocked 8,000 miles.

State Farm is paying out Nissan for the remainder of the lease (39 mos, $354/month), and I am getting $2,250 back of my original deposit.

My questions now are in the negotiation of a new 2013 (or maybe 2012) lease:

1) Am I eligible (again) for the $7500 federal rebate, now that this will be my 2nd leaf?
2) Am I eligible (again) for the $2500 CA rebate if i get a 3 year lease, now that this is will be my 2nd leaf?

If no to 1 & 2, I'm considering leasing under a family member's name hoping that both of those rebate benefits will apply.

Thanks so much. I'm sure I'll have additional questions after as well...

Why did you choose to lease 2012 and not wait for 2013?

-Suzy

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Re: Goodbye JOULEE 3 :(

Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:43 pm

suzywillow wrote:1) Am I eligible (again) for the $7500 federal rebate, now that this will be my 2nd leaf?
Yes.
suzywillow wrote:2) Am I eligible (again) for the $2500 CA rebate if i get a 3 year lease, now that this is will be my 2nd leaf?
Yes. But you may be obligated to return a pro-rated of your original rebate as you no longer own your old LEAF. Contact CCSE for clarification.
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