MobileFastCharger

Someone before was asking about this. Not sure if this was reported before because is not that new. Input 3 phase 400V. Not sure what is the price

http://www.evtec.ch/c5website/index.php/de/produkte/mobilefastcharger/

EdmondLeaf said:

Someone before was asking about this. Not sure if this was reported before because is not that new. Input 3 phase 400V. Not sure what is the price
http://www.evtec.ch/c5website/index.php/de/produkte/mobilefastcharger/

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Or in English: http://www.evtec.ch/c5website/index.php/en/products/mobilefastcharger/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tony Williams has been on the prowl for a 20kW or less CHAdeMO charger. The video has a nice chart showing the time to charge difference between 20kW and 50kW.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H37f1yT4ydk[/youtube]

And they have a public form factor of the same thing:
http://www.evtec.ch/c5website/index.php/en/products/publicfastcharger/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here is another mobile fast charger but manufactured in the US:

http://www.AndromedaPower.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Heather

Awesome, I wonder what it costs and where one could plug it in.

HeatherLin said:

Here is another mobile fast charger but manufactured in the US:

http://www.AndromedaPower.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Heather

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Hi EVDrive,

You can find the info you need here:

http://www.andromedapower.com/Orca_Mobile.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

for $25k one could almost buy a 2nd Leaf...

HeatherLin said:

Here is another mobile fast charger but manufactured in the US:

http://www.AndromedaPower.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Heather

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I took a 102.8 mile drive up to the Andromeda factory today, and met up with several of our fellow SoCal LEAFers. See who you can recognize out of this pics !!!











The beast:






The starting screen on the Andromeda DC Quick Charger. This is the prototype, as the production unit will have a much smaller screen:

The factory in Southern California:








Here's what a conventional 40kW three phase transformer looks like, also made in the same factory as the Andromeda unit:

Wow, great pics Tony!

Sorry for the ignorance but what are the electrical hook up requirements? I'm assuming it requires 3 phase industrial hook up, can't be installed residentially?

GaslessInSeattle said:

Sorry for the ignorance but what are the electrical hook up requirements? I'm assuming it requires 3 phase industrial hook up, can't be installed residentially?

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You can use any AC power sockets (208/400/480V, 50/60Hz, mono-phase, 2 or 3-phases).

HeatherLin said:

GaslessInSeattle said:

Sorry for the ignorance but what are the electrical hook up requirements? I'm assuming it requires 3 phase industrial hook up, can't be installed residentially?

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You can use any AC power sockets (208/400/480V, 50/60Hz, mono-phase, 2 or 3-phases).

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The drop down box on their order page (see below) indicates that input voltage is preset at the factory. Single phase 240VAC is an option, but it wouldn't be able to also use 3-phase service once this choice is made.



The datasheet pdf doesn't show single phase options, but presumably these are now offered, too. Although, most likely at significantly lower power levels.



I'm curious what they propose for input connectors for a portable unit like this. An L16-30 (480VAC@30A) gets you a max of 43.2kW, L18-30 (208VAC@30A) is 18.8kW. The most common high current single phase outlet is 14-50 (240VAC@50A) for 12kW, if you are lucky and find a 14-60 you might be able to get 14.4kW. There are probably many other potential high current outlets out there, but if they aren't commonly installed where you want to charge, you might as well hard wire since you would have to install an outlet anyway. They say they are targeting mobile emergency service, which pretty much means running this thing off a generator on a tow truck. I'm curious how others imagine using such a charger in a portable fashion and what kind of service they expect to connect to (including type of connector). If anyone who attended the factory tour at Andromeda Power has more information about these DC quick chargers, I'd be interested to hear it.

Howdy Goudey

HeatherLin said:

Wow, great pics Tony!

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Glad you like them. I think we met in Del Mar a few weeks ago.

They are using an Italian spec connector, but for $700, you can have a really fancy twist lock NEMA thingy. Push a button to release.

Or, just hard wired with lugs.

All available.

EdmondLeaf said:

Someone before was asking about this. Not sure if this was reported before because is not that new. Input 3 phase 400V. Not sure what is the price

http://www.evtec.ch/c5website/index.php/de/produkte/mobilefastcharger/

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I asked them and they quoted me 14900 Euros (for the European version).
Not quite there yet as a faster alternative to home charging, but hopefully prices will come down eventually.

HeatherLin said:

GaslessInSeattle said:

Sorry for the ignorance but what are the electrical hook up requirements? I'm assuming it requires 3 phase industrial hook up, can't be installed residentially?

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You can use any AC power sockets (208/400/480V, 50/60Hz, mono-phase, 2 or 3-phases).

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Since these are custom build, would it be possible to have a J1772 input? Since there are many L2 chargers with J1772 connectors out there, that can provide significantly more than the Leafs 3.3 kW onboard charger can utilize, but most LEAFS have a QC port, that would be a way to 'by pass' the 3.3 kW limit?

I dont think price/cost - wise it would practical right now, but maybe a smaller system like that, accommodating typical L2 power levels, essentially a J1772 to CHaDeMO adapater, could be interesting.

klapauzius said:

HeatherLin said:

GaslessInSeattle said:

Sorry for the ignorance but what are the electrical hook up requirements? I'm assuming it requires 3 phase industrial hook up, can't be installed residentially?

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You can use any AC power sockets (208/400/480V, 50/60Hz, mono-phase, 2 or 3-phases).

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Since these are custom build, would it be possible to have a J1772 input? Since there are many L2 chargers with J1772 connectors out there, that can provide significantly more than the Leafs 3.3 kW onboard charger can utilize, but most LEAFS have a QC port, that would be a way to 'by pass' the 3.3 kW limit?

I dont think price/cost - wise it would practical right now, but maybe a smaller system like that, accommodating typical L2 power levels, essentially a J1772 to CHaDeMO adapater, could be interesting.

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And eliminate the on board 3.3 charger altogether.

Interesting fact with the Nissan / Sumitomo charger:


Nissan’s own quick charger, which it launched in Europe In 2011, can charge any CHAdeMO-compliant vehicle to 80% capacity in 30 minutes. It’s also “AC ready” to support EVs from Renault that use 43-kW AC quick charge standards. This year, Nissan will give away 400 of its chargers to various cities and regions in Europe, and it has made an agreement with five major utilities to speed up charger installations. The company expects to see thousands of the power sticks in Europe in 2012, and tens of thousands by 2015.

Tony, but we are here in USA, I would like to try one?

What do you want to try? The 43kW AC charger???

I think you have to have the Renault EV car for that. For ChaDeMo DC charging at 48kW, I have no idea when that wll show up in middle America.