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Re: 2016 Leaf to have up to 180 miles of range!!!

Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:36 pm

I like the look, but why the grill?

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Re: 2016 Leaf to have up to 180 miles of range!!!

Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:49 pm

This would be wonderful! A true game changer!
EPA range would be less, however I would guess somewhere between 120-150 miles.
Could very well be our second car.
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Re: 2016 Leaf to have up to 180 miles of range!!!

Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:27 pm

EVDRIVER wrote:
Devin wrote:I wonder where they moved the charge ports. It'd be super awkward to plug either J1772 or CHAdeMO into the nose judging by the angle of the fake grill. Unless those meetings with Tesla were more serious than we all thought?

Otherwise, I like it. Looks like they're copying the new Mazda3 hatchback somewhat, which I think is one of the best looking small cars out right now.



Copy of the Mazda and parts of the ugly Infinity SUV. A little CRX as well. Not exactly an innovative design by any means, looks like a sheet metal copy and paste. I give it to Tesla for innovative design and thumbs down to Nissan for doing the same old thing based on other worn out designs. Would not be surprised if it is the same Versa-Like platform.

If the intent is to make the driver virtually blind to the rear and rear corners without using cameras, that design concept appears to achieve its purpose.

As for Tesla's innovative design, I disagree. It's a nice, but entirely conventional and not particularly distinctive design. It incorporates many styling elements previously used by Maserati, Jaguar, Audi, Lexus etc., and even the new Mazda 6 resembles it. I remember watching a White Model S facing me and waiting to make a left turn. As it did so I saw that there was another white S right behind it, certainly a first for me. Or so I thought, until the second S made the turn so that I could see the four interlocked rings on the rear face of the trunk.

The most distinctive part of the Model S's looks is the wide shelves or 'hips' on the rear fenders, and it's the least attractive aspect of the design to me - makes the car look like it has love handles.
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Re: 2016 Leaf to have up to 180 miles of range!!!

Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:29 pm

LKK wrote:I like the look, but why the grill?
I know… Grilles, scoops… How much air intake does an EV need? I was hoping for something more aero. Bigger battery is fine, but no sense wasting it.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Re: 2016 Leaf to have up to 180 miles of range!!!

Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:50 pm

LKK wrote:I like the look, but why the grill?

People still like the car to blow ice cubes on a hot day.
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Re: 2016 Leaf to have up to 180 miles of range!!!

Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:13 pm

The article sounds like it is long on speculation, no new information here.
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Re: 2016 Leaf to have up to 180 miles of range!!!

Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:25 pm

Each to his own. I think it's blah/boring/ugly, not distinctive, like the present design. It looks similar to just about every other car of that size...doesn't stand out at all. I love the old "bubble" headlights and unique tail lights on the present model. :(
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Re: 2016 Leaf to have up to 180 miles of range!!!

Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:26 pm

LKK wrote:I like the look, but why the grill?



Take a good look at most new ICE cars and a lot of them have false grills. I wouldn't be surprised if the next leaf has a charge port that looks like a grill, not flush as it is now.

Personally I think the charge port is ugly. If you used a fake grill then you could hide the edges of where the door opens easily.
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Re: 2016 Leaf to have up to 180 miles of range!!!

Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:26 pm

Unfortunately, in those pictures at least, it just looks like just another econobox... There is nothing whatsoever to distinguish it.
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Re: 2016 Leaf to have up to 180 miles of range!!!

Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:44 pm

Given the reference to the Mazda3 here, I remind folks of viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13350.
Stoaty wrote:The article sounds like it is long on speculation, no new information here.

Yep. Who knows if this is based on any reputable information or if its all vaporware, speculation and/or wishful thinking.
smkettner wrote:186 in the UK might be a little higher than EPA rated in the USA.
Still great news :)

Remember, the current Leaf is a "200 km" (124 mile) car in Europe... :roll:

See and hear for yourself at viewtopic.php?p=304180#p304180.

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