goldbrick
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Location: Boulder, CO

Round trip Boulder to Nederland

Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:31 am

Just thought I'd throw this out there for anyone wondering what it is like to drive a Leaf up the hill from Boulder. Last night I made my first mountain trip in my 2017 Leaf S and here are the results.

There were 2 adults in the car, heat was on (ECO mode) drove in a line of traffic most of the way so normal speeds. From Boulder to Ned proper took 36% of charge (probably about 12kWh on my car). The ride home took -1% charge (left at 51% hit Boulder with 52%).

All in all I was really pleased with the performance of the car. At least on a 30kWh battery that is fairly new, I think I could do 2 round trips from Boulder to Ned without charging. Just FYI in case you were hesitant to try it. I saw a Leaf at Brainard Lake one day and was always wondering....

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Re: Round trip Boulder to Nederland

Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:22 pm

a Leaf at Brainard Lake one day
https://www.evtripplanner.com/planner/2-8/?id=9yjbr2jr

Looks possible. Closest EV charging is Nederland or Allenspark.
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goldbrick
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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:33 pm
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Location: Boulder, CO

Re: Round trip Boulder to Nederland

Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:39 pm

Thanks for the link. That looks like a very useful app. I'll have to play with it some to get calibrated to my car and driving style.

Bouldergramp
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Location: COLORADO

Re: Round trip Boulder to Nederland

Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:21 am

The neighbors one house away in our townhome complex in Boulder have an older Leaf, probably 2014 or so. They have property in Nederland and drive there almost daily all year. I suggested they buy a dedicated charger from COSTCO but they said they decided to stick with 110V when they bought the car.

goldbrick
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Re: Round trip Boulder to Nederland

Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:03 pm

I charge for free at work (L2) but if I didn't have that I still don't think I'd bother to get a 240 EVSE at home. A Leaf works great within its limitations and if you never need to drive farther than 1 'chargeful' in a single day, L2 and L3 are unnecessary.

Doing a round trip to DIA would be at the limit of my car's capacity and I wouldn't try it without some sort of quick charge mid-trip but that is just another reason to take the bus IMHO. There is nothing wrong with public transportation, especially when it is as convenient as the AB bus.

My biggest surprise about the trip to Ned was that it only took about 1.5x the amount of power it would have it the route was flat. I didn't know what to expect and was even planning charge spots there if I was low. Then the ride down the hill was 'free' which wasn't too big of a surprise but still a little unexpected.

sendmeonmyway
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Re: Round trip Boulder to Nederland

Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:49 am

goldbrick wrote:A Leaf works great within its limitations and if you never need to drive farther than 1 'chargeful' in a single day, L2 and L3 are unnecessary.
We installed a L2 at our house because we couldn't charge enough if we went from here to Denver 3 days in a row. We wouldn't get the battery back to 100% at night (e.g. 7pm to 7am) after a full day of use. ... Having the L2 at home is great, but some folks certainly don't need it.
goldbrick wrote:Doing a round trip to DIA would be at the limit of my car's capacity and I wouldn't try it without some sort of quick charge mid-trip but that is just another reason to take the bus IMHO.
Same, we've done it, but it's a stretch, and I certainly didn't go 80 MPH. We've sat at the chargers at DIA for a while to charge back up, then came home. Lately, all the chargers (east and west) have been 100% full, so we've taken to charging up at the L3 at the Walmart just south of DIA. Only a few minutes out of the way, and there is a home depot and some food options there too,
goldbrick wrote:I think I could do 2 round trips from Boulder to Ned without charging
Same, used less power than I'd expected. Great for zipping up for a day of skiing!

goldbrick
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Re: Round trip Boulder to Nederland

Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:45 pm

sendmeonmyway wrote: so we've taken to charging up at the L3 at the Walmart just south of DIA. Only a few minutes out of the way, and there is a home depot and some food options there too
I was thinking of doing that too if I ever need to do an airport run. Thanks for the info that there really is a (free?) L3 at the Wallmart. Seems almost too good to be true.

I'm thinking of installing L2 at home also. I just bought a used 120/240 Nissan EVSE from a 2018 Leaf and I plan to start using that at home. I need to increase my electrical usage so I can install a reasonable number of solar panels at the house. Right now our usage is so low that Excel will only let me put up about 6 panels due to the 120% rules. I can charge at work for free but having L2 at home will let me charge about an hour or two every day to meet my normal needs.

I just wish the EVSE could be set to 24A since I have an unused 30A circuit in the garage. Instead, I'll upgrade that as it shouldn't be too much extra effort since I already need to replace the current breaker box :shock: It's a split-bus panel and I don't know if that can be used with grid-tie solar. In any event, it's 40+ years old and I'm going to do the work myself so out it goes.

SageBrush
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Re: Round trip Boulder to Nederland

Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:03 pm

goldbrick wrote:Thanks for the info that there really is a (free?) L3 at the Wallmart. Seems almost too good to be true.
Per Plugshare it is part of the EVgo network. I think there is one plug. One user posted

Total duration was 29 minutes and 25 seconds and energy charged was 8.380 kWh. Total session cost is $6.61.
That fellow managed a whopping 16.75 kW average charging rate from a 'DCFC' and paid 80 cents a kWh for the privilege. What can I say -- compared to being stranded with a depleted battery it seems like an OK deal ;-)
It might be free if you have the NCTC Nissan deal
Otherwise https://www.evgo.com/charging-plans/
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11/2018: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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goldbrick
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Location: Boulder, CO

Re: Round trip Boulder to Nederland

Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:49 pm

Hmmm, I don't see the free charger at Walmart anymore. I wonder if it has changed or if I was just imagining things.... There are still the 2 free CHAdeMO chargers at the E-470 Public Highway Authority building.

It's been a long time since I've driven to the airport but maybe I'll give it a go someday if they are still open and free. Or not. RTD is so convenient for me it's hard to pass it up.

PrairieLEAF
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Location: Weld County, Colorado

Re: Round trip Boulder to Nederland

Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:46 pm

Thanks for including the charge percentages! I haven't LEAFed to Ned yet, but next time I visit friends near Pinecliffe, I'll go to Ned first and catch some L2.

Brainard is also on my list!

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