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Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:58 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
RegGuheert wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:except that it doesn't matter what battery you put in because the warranty is with the original purchase and pack. So be it 30 kwh or 40 kwh, your warranty is whatever of the 5 years or 60,000 miles you got left
That's only true if the 30 kWh is replaced under my original warranty, which is long expired. But if you purchase a battery new from Nissan, then you get the warranty that comes with it. IIRC, Nissan provides a NEW 5-year, 60,000-mile warranty when you purchase the 24-kWh battery. When you purchase a new 30-kWh battery not under warranty, what warranty do they offer you?



ok, my bad. I thought this "under warranty" discussion.

the 30 kwh is 100,000 miles or 8 years

Clarify please defect Vs degradation in that warranty
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Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:49 am

Eight years for both degradation below 9 bars and for defects in workmanship.
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Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:05 am

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lorenfb wrote:No. Most OEMs don't provide an ongoing warranty once they've complied with the original new car warranty. Obviously, each OEM can differ with this, but it would be very costly in the long run. So to clarify my statement; If Nissan sells an out-right purchase of a replacement battery (either 24 or 30kWh) they will provide the same warranty whether it's just one year (like any replacement part) or a "like new vehicle" warranty of 5 years & 60K miles (unlikely). Obviously, if the battery fails again within the same original 60K period, it's a no cost replacement. Typically OEMs don't provide open-ended warranties. Nissan could reasonably state that a 30kWh battery would not be considered as the normal replacement part but an optional type of replacement part and only warranty it for one year. I doubt that there's any specific law or guidelines relating to that issue and the OEM is not obligated to any specific warranty. The same issue can be rationalized when an ICE is warranty replaced in an ICEV, i.e. the same logic could apply for a battery.
It sounds like you are just making stuff up as regards to the Nissan LEAF. I'm specifically talking about the "Nissan LEAF Li-Ion Battery Assurance Limited Warranty" that Nissan provides to owners when they purchase a new Li-ion battery. For the 24-kWh batteries, that warranty is for 8 years and 100,000 miles for materials and workmanship and for 5 years and 60,000 miles for gradual capacity loss.

The question is how long the warrant period is for gradual capacity loss on the 30-kWh battery. Random speculation is not really useful here.


All that was provided was based on your having purchased a replacement battery for your present old Leaf, i.e. a 24 kWh or 30 kWh battery.
The warranty possibilities are either that the purchase is considered as a typical vehicle part replacement which has a one year warranty,
or Nissan provides a non-standard part replacement warranty (like a new vehicle - 5yrs, X miles, etc.). Nissan may become benevolent with
regards to this and assume continued liability for your replacement batteries. I doubt that Nissan has really established a policy as yet.
So maybe you should contact Nissan corporate and eliminate any speculation. There're only two outcomes to the issue and guessing
in this thread won't resolve it.

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Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:29 am

Forget about calling Nissan -- that is useless and carries absolutely no legal standing.
The only useful document is the printed warranty that came with the battery.
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Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:14 am

SageBrush wrote:Forget about calling Nissan -- that is useless and carries absolutely no legal standing.
The only useful document is the printed warranty that came with the battery.


Yes, that's the reality with any automotive OEM.

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Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:51 am

lorenfb wrote:I doubt that Nissan has really established a policy as yet.
Of course they have. They did it before they sold the first replacement battery. I just told you what it is.
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Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:41 pm

RegGuheert wrote: I'm specifically talking about the "Nissan LEAF Li-Ion Battery Assurance Limited Warranty" that Nissan provides to owners when they purchase a new Li-ion battery. For the 24-kWh batteries, that warranty is for 8 years and 100,000 miles for materials and workmanship and for 5 years and 60,000 miles for gradual capacity loss.

The question is how long the warrant period is for gradual capacity loss on the 30-kWh battery. Random speculation is not really useful here.
I found 8 yrs/100k miles for the 30 kWh battery in a new LEAF. No luck here googling the warranty in print for a purchased, new LEAF 30 kWh battery replacement.
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Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:42 pm

SageBrush wrote:
RegGuheert wrote: I'm specifically talking about the "Nissan LEAF Li-Ion Battery Assurance Limited Warranty" that Nissan provides to owners when they purchase a new Li-ion battery. For the 24-kWh batteries, that warranty is for 8 years and 100,000 miles for materials and workmanship and for 5 years and 60,000 miles for gradual capacity loss.

The question is how long the warrant period is for gradual capacity loss on the 30-kWh battery. Random speculation is not really useful here.
I found 8 yrs/100k miles for the 30 kWh battery in a new LEAF. No luck here googling the warranty in print for a purchased, new LEAF 30 kWh battery replacement.


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Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:14 pm

SageBrush wrote:
RegGuheert wrote: I'm specifically talking about the "Nissan LEAF Li-Ion Battery Assurance Limited Warranty" that Nissan provides to owners when they purchase a new Li-ion battery. For the 24-kWh batteries, that warranty is for 8 years and 100,000 miles for materials and workmanship and for 5 years and 60,000 miles for gradual capacity loss.

The question is how long the warrant period is for gradual capacity loss on the 30-kWh battery. Random speculation is not really useful here.
I found 8 yrs/100k miles for the 30 kWh battery in a new LEAF. No luck here googling the warranty in print for a purchased, new LEAF 30 kWh battery replacement.


Yes!!!!! You understand the issue. Explain to others.

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Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:58 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
SageBrush wrote:
RegGuheert wrote: I'm specifically talking about the "Nissan LEAF Li-Ion Battery Assurance Limited Warranty" that Nissan provides to owners when they purchase a new Li-ion battery. For the 24-kWh batteries, that warranty is for 8 years and 100,000 miles for materials and workmanship and for 5 years and 60,000 miles for gradual capacity loss.

The question is how long the warrant period is for gradual capacity loss on the 30-kWh battery. Random speculation is not really useful here.
I found 8 yrs/100k miles for the 30 kWh battery in a new LEAF. No luck here googling the warranty in print for a purchased, new LEAF 30 kWh battery replacement.


why would it be different?


Oh, I don't know ... ...
To save NIssan money ?
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