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mwalsh
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Leaf Number: 0213
Location: Garden Grove, CA

Re: Capacity Losses 2011/12 Leafs-Was(Lost a bar...)

Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:52 pm

Reddy wrote:Hmmm, my mind is seeing a blue Leaf sitting in the sun right now at 100% SOC, perhaps even parked next to a west facing wall with aluminum siding, or at least painted white ;)


Not actually doing much of anything subversive. The only real change in my behavior is that I'm not sparing the horses. It'd D all the way, baby, driven as hard as I care to drive (or as hard as I feel I can drive while taking into account the range I need for that day). It's doing a super job of bringing pack temps up without any shenanigans on my part. Ride hard, put away wet. :D

On days that I need to charge, I charge in the usual way - starting at around 3am for 3-4 hours, to stay within Super Off Peak TOU rates. So maybe the car sits fully charged for a couple of hours in the early morning (normal summer temps in the high-60s to mid-70s in my neck of the woods), but no longer.
2011 Blue Ocean SL with 75,000 miles.
2015 pack under warranty 12/30/15.
Tinted windows.
Bridgestone Ecopia 422+ tires.
L1 EVSE upgrade.
FIAMM horns.
Superbright LED lighting.
2013 sun visors.
LED shifter.
Heated seats.
GT-R map lamp lenses.
AV L2 EVSE.

DaveinOlyWA
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Delivery Date: 16 Feb 2018
Leaf Number: 314199
Location: Olympia, WA
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Re: Capacity Losses 2011/12 Leafs-Was(Lost a bar...)

Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:43 pm

mwalsh wrote:
SilverLeaf wrote:I will be taking my LEAF to Nissan at the end of October, no need to put new battery through this summer too


Assuming things go the way I expect/hope, and I loose bar 9 some time within the next two months, I'll wait until after October too. In fact, if my driving needs don't change any between now and December, I may wait until the last couple of weeks my warranty being valid. It'll be an excellent Christmas gift! :D

43.65 AHr, 66.54% Capacity as of last Sunday. Just 0.09AHr away from where jpvleaf lost her 9th bar (though a massive 1.88AHr away from where brettcgb supposedly lost his).


after all you have been thru, I am glad you are maximizing your return. you have it timed just about perfectly!
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 5775 miles, 488 GIDs, 38 kwh 113.37 Ahr available, SOH 98.21, Hx 115.75
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kolmstead
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Delivery Date: 15 Jan 2011
Leaf Number: 000257
Location: Ridgecrest, California (100 miles east of Bakersfield)

Re: Capacity Losses 2011/12 Leafs-Was(Lost a bar...)

Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:24 pm

44.25 Ahr tonight. 110 F today. Pack temps about 114 F when I got home. Showed 6 gid and 0.5 kWh left when I shut car off. Restarted to update pack capacity, and turtled instantly. 4 gids, 0.3 kWh. We finally got some summer weather!

-Karl

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Re: Capacity Losses 2011/12 Leafs-Was(Lost a bar...)

Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:50 pm

kolmstead wrote:44.25 Ahr tonight. 110 F today. Pack temps about 114 F when I got home. Showed 6 gid and 0.5 kWh left when I shut car off. Restarted to update pack capacity, and turtled instantly. 4 gids, 0.3 kWh. We finally got some summer weather!

-Karl


Speaking of summer weather:
I parked my Leaf under covered parking at the office last Tuesday morning and returned to the office Saturday night. Here is the display when I started the Leaf to go home at 11:14 pm. Battery temperatures were 106.2, 106.9, and 106.7 at 11:15pm; 109.1, 109.4, and 109.4 after driving home 26 miles (mostly freeway). Battery in 2015 seems to be doing better than batteries in 2011 did in the heat.

Gerry
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Armand
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Location: SF Bay Area (San Mateo)

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:32 am

Valdemar wrote:Nobody's efforts paid off. The losers who care are stuck with a severely degraded pack after the capacity warranty is over. Speaking from experience.


Not entirely true. We are going to get a $50 check each. Right? Can't wait to get mine. :lol: How do you plan to spend it?

Speaking of degredation, it's been a while since I posted. My 4th anniversary is two days away.

52K miles
49.5 AHr
212 Gids
2 bars down

Degredation doesn't seem as bad as last year so far. Still gets 60 miles on a full tank. We have treated her just like any other car from day one. Frequent 100% charges, sometimes multiple times a day and parked in the Sun for long hours at high SOC. I think I charged to 80% just once. It was too inconvenient and never tried it again.
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mwalsh
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:52 pm

Armand wrote:Not entirely true. We are going to get a $50 check each. Right?


I don't think so. If you're in an area where there is "No Charge to Charge" you get a credit for charging. You only get a check if there is no "No Charge to Charge" in your locality.
2011 Blue Ocean SL with 75,000 miles.
2015 pack under warranty 12/30/15.
Tinted windows.
Bridgestone Ecopia 422+ tires.
L1 EVSE upgrade.
FIAMM horns.
Superbright LED lighting.
2013 sun visors.
LED shifter.
Heated seats.
GT-R map lamp lenses.
AV L2 EVSE.

TimLee
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Delivery Date: 17 May 2011
Leaf Number: 2026
Location: Chattanooga, TN

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:51 pm

mwalsh wrote:...If you're in an area where there is "No Charge to Charge" you get a credit for charging. You only get a check if there is no "No Charge to Charge" in your locality.

Correct.
Would be interesting to know what % of the 2011 & 2012 LEAFs are in "No Charge to Charge" location.

And the class action is for a US federal court.
Only applies to purchases and leases in US?

Tim Lee
Chattanooga, TN

Man. Date: 03/10/11, VIN # 2026
Delivered 05-17-2011
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pchilds
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Delivery Date: 31 Jul 2011
Leaf Number: 006141
Location: SoCal

Re: Capacity Losses 2011/12 Leafs-Was(Lost a bar...)

Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:14 pm

Lost #12 12/03/13, 17550 miles, 28 months owned. AHr=55.45, SOH=84%
Lost #11 06/15/14, 21493 miles, 34 months owned. AHr=50.70, SOH=77%
Lost #10 10/08/14, 23020 miles, 38 months owned. AHr=47.44, SOH=72%
Lost # 9 08/31/15 , 26946 miles, 49 months owned, AHr=42.53, SOH=58%
2011 LEAF, gone,
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mwalsh
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Re: Capacity Losses 2011/12 Leafs-Was(Lost a bar...)

Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:30 pm

pchilds wrote:Lost # 9 08/31/15 , 26946 miles, 49 months owned, AHr=42.53, SOH=58%



Congrats! Will add you to my list.
2011 Blue Ocean SL with 75,000 miles.
2015 pack under warranty 12/30/15.
Tinted windows.
Bridgestone Ecopia 422+ tires.
L1 EVSE upgrade.
FIAMM horns.
Superbright LED lighting.
2013 sun visors.
LED shifter.
Heated seats.
GT-R map lamp lenses.
AV L2 EVSE.

dhanson865
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Leaf Number: 16156
Location: Tennessee

Re: Capacity Losses 2011/12 Leafs-Was(Lost a bar...)

Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:40 pm

pchilds wrote:Lost #12 12/03/13, 17550 miles, 28 months owned. AHr=55.45, SOH=84%
Lost #11 06/15/14, 21493 miles, 34 months owned. AHr=50.70, SOH=77%
Lost #10 10/08/14, 23020 miles, 38 months owned. AHr=47.44, SOH=72%
Lost # 9 08/31/15 , 26946 miles, 49 months owned, AHr=42.53, SOH=58%


Can you give us the manufacturing date from the driver door jamb label?

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|August 31, 2015
|pchilds
|southern, CA
|26,946 miles
|?? months
|date of manufacture?
|2011
|6141
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