cwerdna
Gold Member
Posts: 7392
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:31 pm
Delivery Date: 28 Jul 2013
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:28 am

palmermd wrote:As of August 1st 2015 we lost our second bar. We now sit at 51.51Ahr, 78%SOH and Hx 60.23%, 37,016 miles, 3245 L1/L2 charges and 0 DCQC charges.

Not likely to lose the other two in the next 8 months, but you never know.

palmermd wrote:... As of today, 1st of June 2014 we have 54.91Ahr SOH 83% and Hx 68.63%, 25,382 miles, 1890 L1/L2 charges and 0 DCQC charges. ...

That's quite good considering that you live in a pretty hot part of CA. Saw your 1st bar post. It seems like your efforts did pay off.

'13 blue Leaf SV w/premium package (owned)
'13 blue Leaf SV w/QC + LED & premium packages (lease over, car returned)
'06 Prius

Valdemar
Posts: 2425
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 10:32 pm
Delivery Date: 09 Sep 2011
Location: Oak Park, CA

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:50 am

Nobody's efforts paid off. The losers who care are stuck with a severely degraded pack after the capacity warranty is over. Speaking from experience.
'11 SL, totaled
-1CB@33k/21mo, -2CB@53k/33mo, -3CB@68k/41mo, -4CB(41.5AHr)@79k/49mo, -5CB(38.85AHr)@87.5k/54mo
-0CB(66.14AHr)@87.5k/54mo (BBB)
59.7AHr, SOH 93%, 118k miles
9kW Solar

cwerdna
Gold Member
Posts: 7392
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:31 pm
Delivery Date: 28 Jul 2013
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:31 am

Valdemar wrote:Nobody's efforts paid off. The losers who care are stuck with a severely degraded pack after the capacity warranty is over. Speaking from experience.

Well, there are some who never would've or likely wouldn't have qualified for a free replacement under the 5 year/60K mile capacity warranty.

'13 blue Leaf SV w/premium package (owned)
'13 blue Leaf SV w/QC + LED & premium packages (lease over, car returned)
'06 Prius

Valdemar
Posts: 2425
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 10:32 pm
Delivery Date: 09 Sep 2011
Location: Oak Park, CA

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:38 am

cwerdna wrote:
Valdemar wrote:Nobody's efforts paid off. The losers who care are stuck with a severely degraded pack after the capacity warranty is over. Speaking from experience.

Well, there are some who never would've or likely wouldn't have qualified for a free replacement under the 5 year/60K mile capacity warranty.


Fair point.
'11 SL, totaled
-1CB@33k/21mo, -2CB@53k/33mo, -3CB@68k/41mo, -4CB(41.5AHr)@79k/49mo, -5CB(38.85AHr)@87.5k/54mo
-0CB(66.14AHr)@87.5k/54mo (BBB)
59.7AHr, SOH 93%, 118k miles
9kW Solar

User avatar
SilverLeaf
Posts: 418
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:55 pm
Delivery Date: 17 Apr 2011
Leaf Number: 000516
Location: Scottsdale, AZ

Re: Capacity Losses 2011/12 Leafs-Was(Lost a bar...)

Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:22 am

Joining the club. Just lost my 4th bar last night. Reported the loss to Nissan this morning.
I updated the Wiki with my details, repeating here for consistency.

Report #40, Date of Loss August 17, 2015, Location Scottsdale, AZ, Mileage at Loss 24, 697, Months 52
Manufacture Date 04/11 Case # 1981-9945 Reported to Nissan August 18, 2011
I will be taking my LEAF to Nissan at the end of October, no need to put new battery through this summer too
Reserved 4/20/2010
Ordered 9/2/2010
Arrived 4/17/2011
Installed 5.52 kW PV 2/2011
Upgraded PV to 6.9 kW 2/2012
Upgraded PV to 7.59 kW 2/2013

User avatar
mwalsh
Posts: 9482
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:10 am
Delivery Date: 05 Jan 2011
Leaf Number: 0213
Location: Garden Grove, CA

Re: Capacity Losses 2011/12 Leafs-Was(Lost a bar...)

Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:28 am

SilverLeaf wrote:I will be taking my LEAF to Nissan at the end of October, no need to put new battery through this summer too


Assuming things go the way I expect/hope, and I loose bar 9 some time within the next two months, I'll wait until after October too. In fact, if my driving needs don't change any between now and December, I may wait until the last couple of weeks my warranty being valid. It'll be an excellent Christmas gift! :D

43.65 AHr, 66.54% Capacity as of last Sunday. Just 0.09AHr away from where jpvleaf lost her 9th bar (though a massive 1.88AHr away from where brettcgb supposedly lost his).
2011 Blue Ocean SL with 72,000 miles.
2015 pack under warranty 12/30/15.
Tinted windows.
Michelin MXV4 tires.
L1 EVSE upgrade.
FIAMM horns.
Superbright LED lighting.
2013 sun visors.
LED shifter.
Heated seats.
GT-R map lamp lenses.
AV L2 EVSE.

TimLee
Posts: 2810
Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:40 am
Delivery Date: 17 May 2011
Leaf Number: 2026
Location: Chattanooga, TN

Re: Capacity Losses 2011/12 Leafs-Was(Lost a bar...)

Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:40 am

mwalsh wrote:...
43.65 AHr, 66.54% Capacity ...

66.54% SOH?
43.65/66.25 = 65.9% capacity if 66.25 was brand new AHr?

Tim Lee
Chattanooga, TN

Man. Date: 03/10/11, VIN # 2026
Delivered 05-17-2011
Blue Ocean, 2011 SL-eTec

User avatar
RegGuheert
Posts: 5680
Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:12 am
Delivery Date: 16 Mar 2012
Leaf Number: 5926
Location: Northern VA

Re: Capacity Losses 2011/12 Leafs-Was(Lost a bar...)

Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:03 pm

mwalsh wrote:43.65 AHr, 66.54% Capacity as of last Sunday. Just 0.09AHr away from where jpvleaf lost her 9th bar (though a massive 1.88AHr away from where brettcgb supposedly lost his).
But who's counting, right? ;)
RegGuheert
2011 Leaf SL Demo vehicle
10K miles: Apr 14, 2013, 20K miles (55.7Ah): Aug 7, 2014, 30K miles (52.0Ah): Dec 30, 2015, 40K miles (49.8Ah): Feb 8, 2017, 50K miles (47.2Ah): Dec 7, 2017.
Enphase Inverter Measured MTBF: M190, M215, M250, S280

User avatar
mwalsh
Posts: 9482
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:10 am
Delivery Date: 05 Jan 2011
Leaf Number: 0213
Location: Garden Grove, CA

Re: Capacity Losses 2011/12 Leafs-Was(Lost a bar...)

Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:21 am

RegGuheert wrote:But who's counting, right? ;)


:D 43.50AHr; 66.31% Capacity today. I'm sitting right on the theoretical upper threshold for bar 9 loss and have crossed the upper threshold seen in the real world. So it is literally a waiting game now. :D
2011 Blue Ocean SL with 72,000 miles.
2015 pack under warranty 12/30/15.
Tinted windows.
Michelin MXV4 tires.
L1 EVSE upgrade.
FIAMM horns.
Superbright LED lighting.
2013 sun visors.
LED shifter.
Heated seats.
GT-R map lamp lenses.
AV L2 EVSE.

Reddy
Posts: 1453
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:09 pm
Delivery Date: 18 Aug 2011
Leaf Number: 006828
Location: Pasco, WA

Re: Capacity Losses 2011/12 Leafs-Was(Lost a bar...)

Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:14 pm

mwalsh wrote:
RegGuheert wrote:But who's counting, right? ;)


:D 43.50AHr; 66.31% Capacity today. I'm sitting right on the theoretical upper threshold for bar 9 loss and have crossed the upper threshold seen in the real world. So it is literally a waiting game now. :D
Hmmm, my mind is seeing a blue Leaf sitting in the sun right now at 100% SOC, perhaps even parked next to a west facing wall with aluminum siding, or at least painted white ;)
Reddy
2011 SL; 9 bar, 45.80 AHr; 43,000 mi; rcv'd Aug 18, 2011
Long: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... al#p226115"
Cold: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p243033"

Return to “Problems / Troubleshooting”