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Re: EV Reserved Parking Spots violators

Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:58 am

Maybe someone should put together a website where you can submit a picture of any ICE car blocking an EV parking space, and enter the license. If any car did it more than once (i.e., two or more photos for a given state/license combo), they'd automatically appear on a Wall of Shame on the website. Do it once mistakenly, no harm no foul. Do it repeatedly and deliberately, and you end up on the Wall of Shame. :P
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Re: EV Reserved Parking Spots violators

Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:36 am

Just call parking enforcement and or the towing company for the lot. It is so easy and all they want is a description and location of the vehicle(s). Towing makes them money and they will love you.

We should have a dedicated thread with the locations and towing numbers for "problem" locations. Nothing like crowd-sourcing to solve this problem.
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Re: EV Reserved Parking Spots violators

Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:37 am

planet4ever wrote:Maybe I'm just being cheap, but am I going to get anything worthwhile for my $17? Are these needed anywhere in the Bay Area?

Ray
Yes Ray you are being cheap :D

However the way I read the code that unless the sign states:
Unauthorized vehicles not displaying valid zero-emission vehicle decal identifications will be towed away at owner's expense.
the sticker doesn't mean squat.

Keep in mind that this also keeps plug in hybrids out of spots marked as such too. Should those vehicles be towed as well?
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Re: EV Reserved Parking Spots violators

Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:39 am

I don't plan to push it unless I am otherwise stuck.
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Re: EV Reserved Parking Spots violators

Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:43 am

Spies wrote:Keep in mind that this also keeps plug in hybrids out of spots marked as such too. Should those vehicles be towed as well?


IMO....Yes. It should apply to any vehicle that doesn't use electricity as it's sole source of motivation.
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Re: EV Reserved Parking Spots violators

Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:57 am

mwalsh wrote:IMO....Yes. It should apply to any vehicle that doesn't use electricity as it's sole source of motivation.
I agree even though it will most likely not make the PHEV folks happy and it is the way the law is currently written. By the way I do have the sticker but have not placed it on my vehicle yet but will soon.

So is it appropriate to play "hard ball" and call to have a car towed that is in a designated parking stall that is not displaying the sticker?
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Re: EV Reserved Parking Spots violators

Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:20 pm

Spies wrote:So is it appropriate to play "hard ball" and call to have a car towed that is in a designated parking stall that is not displaying the sticker?


It would be less "hard ball" if they were just towed to another available spot, with a $XX "re-parking" fine...

I've printed out a bunch of those warning notices 2x per page (thanks to jcesare!) and it will at least make me feel better to put that on a vehicle...

As far as the $17 CA EV parking sticker goes, it seems excessive to me (the HOV sticker is only $8), especially on vehicles that are clearly EVs.
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Re: EV Reserved Parking Spots violators

Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:38 pm

Electric4Me wrote:It would be less "hard ball" if they were just towed to another available spot, with a $XX "re-parking" fine...


Great idea!

Electric4Me wrote:As far as the $17 CA EV parking sticker goes, it seems excessive to me (the HOV sticker is only $8), especially on vehicles that are clearly EVs.


LOL! I thought the same thing. :lol: But the HOV sticker was a bargain at only $8, so it didn't give me much cause to grumble. I just looked at the two as having a $25 "package price".
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Re: EV Reserved Parking Spots violators

Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:57 pm

mwalsh wrote:
Electric4Me wrote:It would be less "hard ball" if they were just towed to another available spot, with a $XX "re-parking" fine...


Great idea!


You can always bring 1-3 floor jacks with you as well and move any violators out into the main aisle. (I've "re-parked" cars with 5-6 guys lifting one end at a time...but that's a little harder with gynormous SUVs!)
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Re: EV Reserved Parking Spots violators

Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:31 pm

Electric4Me wrote:You can always bring 1-3 floor jacks with you as well and move any violators out into the main aisle.

No way! That sounds like an open invitation to get your LEAF keyed. I'll stick with approaches that do more to educate than aggravate.

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