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ironmanco

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I looking for a connected power meter for my 240v charging circuit. Either network readable or readable through a iOS app.
 
ironmanco said:
I looking for a connected power meter for my 240v charging circuit. Either network readable or readable through a iOS app.
I haven't seen something like that but you could purchase a device that plugs inline with the J1772 connector that would do what you want. The juicebox company recently had a kickstarter campaign on it, ~$150 I believe with CA residents getting something like a $50 rebate. It simply plugs inline with your J1772 connector and requires no wiring whatsoever and works with any EVSE.
https://www.emotorwerks.com/index.php/store-juicebox-ev-charging-stations/1631-juiceplug-a-universal-smart-ev-charging-adapter/category_pathway-23
 
Check out something called "The Modlet" by Thinkeco.

http://www.thinkecoinc.com/products/

It may not be on their site, but they have a 220v version of the 110v Modlet; they communicate with your PC via a USB dongle, and you store data in the cloud with a (free) account. I have one of each: a 220v (with a P6-20 plug) for my EVSE and a 110v for my stereo (I monitor audio/video equipment separately--sort of). They even have an app!
 
jjeff said:
I haven't seen something like that but you could purchase a device that plugs inline with the J1772 connector that would do what you want. The juicebox company recently had a kickstarter campaign on it, ~$150 I believe with CA residents getting something like a $50 rebate. It simply plugs inline with your J1772 connector and requires no wiring whatsoever and works with any EVSE.
https://www.emotorwerks.com/index.php/store-juicebox-ev-charging-stations/1631-juiceplug-a-universal-smart-ev-charging-adapter/category_pathway-23

This looks really cool because it has control in it as well. I didn't see it included on the features but the ability to specific a SOC target % and have it cut off charging would be great as well.

-Andrew
 
Stanton said:
Check out something called "The Modlet" by Thinkeco.

http://www.thinkecoinc.com/products/

It may not be on their site, but they have a 220v version of the 110v Modlet; they communicate with your PC via a USB dongle, and you store data in the cloud with a (free) account. I have one of each: a 220v (with a P6-20 plug) for my EVSE and a 110v for my stereo (I monitor audio/video equipment separately--sort of). They even have an app!

So wait.....you need to have the unit near a computer with a USB connection? That seems kind of problematic.
 
ironmanco said:
jjeff said:
I haven't seen something like that but you could purchase a device that plugs inline with the J1772 connector that would do what you want. The juicebox company recently had a kickstarter campaign on it, ~$150 I believe with CA residents getting something like a $50 rebate. It simply plugs inline with your J1772 connector and requires no wiring whatsoever and works with any EVSE.
https://www.emotorwerks.com/index.php/store-juicebox-ev-charging-stations/1631-juiceplug-a-universal-smart-ev-charging-adapter/category_pathway-23

This looks really cool because it has control in it as well. I didn't see it included on the features but the ability to specific a SOC target % and have it cut off charging would be great as well.

-Andrew
I agree that would sure be nice, but I'm not sure the EVSE knows the batteries SOC? Is that something contained in the J1772 protocol? None of the photos I saw in that EMW link showed SOC% on the phone, unless I missed it.
 
ironmanco said:
Stanton said:
Check out something called "The Modlet" by Thinkeco.

http://www.thinkecoinc.com/products/

It may not be on their site, but they have a 220v version of the 110v Modlet; they communicate with your PC via a USB dongle, and you store data in the cloud with a (free) account. I have one of each: a 220v (with a P6-20 plug) for my EVSE and a 110v for my stereo (I monitor audio/video equipment separately--sort of). They even have an app!

So wait.....you need to have the unit near a computer with a USB connection? That seems kind of problematic.

Not at all; I guess you didn't get that the USB dongle is wireless. They also have a WiFi option now: read the website/shop products.
 
jjeff said:
I agree that would sure be nice, but I'm not sure the EVSE knows the batteries SOC? Is that something contained in the J1772 protocol? None of the photos I saw in that EMW link showed SOC% on the phone, unless I missed it.

Just heard back from the emotorwerks folks and you can set the SOC limit to anything and it will charge to that point.

-Andrew
 
ironmanco said:
jjeff said:
I agree that would sure be nice, but I'm not sure the EVSE knows the batteries SOC? Is that something contained in the J1772 protocol? None of the photos I saw in that EMW link showed SOC% on the phone, unless I missed it.

Just heard back from the emotorwerks folks and you can set the SOC limit to anything and it will charge to that point.

-Andrew
Cool, it really seems to be a little wonder device for those technically inclined. I believe being able to stop charging at even 80% SOC is lacking on Leafs newer than '13 and for Leafs older than '13 you need to use the timer function to stop charging at 80%.
 
jjeff said:
Cool, it really seems to be a little wonder device for those technically inclined. I believe being able to stop charging at even 80% SOC is lacking on Leafs newer than '13 and for Leafs older than '13 you need to use the timer function to stop charging at 80%.

I'm not sure it's for those that are "technically inclined" as all you have to do is plug it in-line and connect your smart phone or browser to it's embedded functionality.

I think if you can manage your Leaf you can manage this.
 
ironmanco said:
jjeff said:
Cool, it really seems to be a little wonder device for those technically inclined. I believe being able to stop charging at even 80% SOC is lacking on Leafs newer than '13 and for Leafs older than '13 you need to use the timer function to stop charging at 80%.

I'm not sure it's for those that are "technically inclined" as all you have to do is plug it in-line and connect your smart phone or browser to it's embedded functionality.

I think if you can manage your Leaf you can manage this.
I guess what I was getting at was...... those that care. People that hang around forums probably care and would be interested in such a device but I bet a good percentage of Leaf drivers just get in it and drive, and when it starts getting low they plug in their OEM L1 EVSE :)
I didn't really mean one would need to be technically inclined to use this product, just probably be technically inclined to care ;)
 
Ok - really like some of the emotorworks solutions. I'll have to wait for a while for the juiceplug to become available and I'm not sure I want to wait or about the price point.

Thinkeco's 220v solution only works up to 20A so that's out.

I'm was looking at something cheap for the time being to just log stuff...something like these:

http://amzn.com/B015MTGZ4S
http://amzn.com/B01CZOM862

Any other cost effective options out there (yes, I know that the two above solutions are not app readable :)
 
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