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Nissan Is Watching You — EV Charge Points Tracked and Shared

Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:20 am

Finding somewhere to plug in an electric car can be a little difficult. Nissan has a solution to this potential problem. Leaf drivers know where to plug in their cars, so Nissan is just asking them.
Nissan’s new service, which went online April 23rd, monitors approximately 13,000 Leafs (in Japan) and records exactly where the cars are plugged in. The data is then sorted and put online for other Leaf drivers to access.


http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/24/nissan-is-watching-you-ev-charge-points-tracked-and-shared/
I think this is great idea. They can easily filter your home evse out, however I am completely fine is someone want to use my home evse. IMHO this is the best way to do most updated evse map.

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Re: Nissan Is Watching You — EV Charge Points Tracked and Sh

Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:36 am

Yeah, hate the fact that the article title implies Orwellian monitoring. This is a GOOD thing! Sometimes people get so uptight about things that they don't understand. First of all it's very likely that no one will every track an individual car down to an individual charging station, but so what if they did? Most people willingly check in places on Facebook and they have to actually take actions to do so! But anyway, if it's that big a deal to some people, give them an opt-out (or even opt-in for the sane among us)--just don't give them the benefits of the system.

Anyway I agree, a well designed system should be able to distinguish public vs. private charging stations by simply asking the user whether it's public or private before it uploads the data. Simple as that. I do imagine there will be some that are misclassified unfortunately, but the system could probably sort that out by waiting until it received 2 or 3 reports of the same charging station. And maybe even display unconfirmed stations with a different color or icon to alert the driver.
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Re: Nissan Is Watching You — EV Charge Points Tracked and Sh

Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:25 pm

Hopefully, Nissan would filter out locations where only a few cars charge. This would eliminate homes and businesses with private charging.
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Re: Nissan Is Watching You — EV Charge Points Tracked and Sh

Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:43 pm

Sounds great to me. Certainly none of the current efforts to map charging locations work very well.
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Re: Nissan Is Watching You — EV Charge Points Tracked and Sh

Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:08 am

This is a good thing. If Nissan wants to sell Leaf's in Charlotte they're going to have to get more chargers in here. And I would LOVE :D to see QC's at every rest stop in NC to get me to Raleigh and back.
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Re: Nissan Is Watching You — EV Charge Points Tracked and Sh

Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:19 am

I have my home EVSE listed on Plug-Share and there are no other EVSEs for many miles in either direction. But so far no-one has ever asked to use it. I'm actually curious if anyone has ever actually used somebody else's home EVSE before off of PlugShare?
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Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:37 am

adric22 wrote:I have my home EVSE listed on Plug-Share and there are no other EVSEs for many miles in either direction. But so far no-one has ever asked to use it. I'm actually curious if anyone has ever actually used somebody else's home EVSE before off of PlugShare?

I have and I am planning to.

In the prior instance, I have met the person I asked at an EV event so I felt comfortable asking him. I planned out my trip and sent him a message through plugshare. Unfortunately I did not hear back from him for about a week, 6 days after my trip!

In the future instance, there is an EV task force meeting taking place in June that's about 90 miles from my house. I'll need to stop en route, but once I get to the destination I'll certainly need to charge back up to 100%. There are no public charging stations nearby. The group organizing the meeting is working on getting temporary EVSEs to have at the meeting, but if that doesn't pan out I did see 2 nearby home charging stations on plugshare and I'll be reaching out to them to see if (a) they are interested in attending the meeting and (b) if they wouldn't mind if I charged at their home and I hitched a ride with them to the meeting!

My home charging station is listed in plugshare, but since it's only about 2 miles away from a Nissan dealer, I really doubt I'll ever get taken up on it.
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Re: Nissan Is Watching You — EV Charge Points Tracked and Sh

Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:43 am

coqui wrote:And I would LOVE :D to see QC's at every rest stop in NC to get me to Raleigh and back.

That's not likely to happen. Too many legal issues surrounding the ability to charge $$$ for a charge at an interstate rest area and lack of infrastructure (i.e. 480V 3-phase power) at rest areas will prevent this. But that's not a bad thing. I really think siting the QC stations off-highway in areas with more amenities is going to work out better anyway. That is the direction OR and WA have taken and I think NC will follow their lead.
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Re: Nissan Is Watching You — EV Charge Points Tracked and Sh

Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:48 am

I got a plugshare request --

It was from a Volt.

My J1772 is effectively inside my house. I wasn't about to leave my house open for a guy to charge midday - he was up in my area on business - I figure he should have asked the business he was visiting for a charge - not camping out at my house (~3 miles from his location)

I delisted myself from plugshare. I might relist if they figure out how to add a "EV only Urgent Charge" option....

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Re: Nissan Is Watching You — EV Charge Points Tracked and Sh

Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:10 am

essaunders wrote:I got a plugshare request --

It was from a Volt.

My J1772 is effectively inside my house. I wasn't about to leave my house open for a guy to charge midday - he was up in my area on business - I figure he should have asked the business he was visiting for a charge - not camping out at my house (~3 miles from his location)

I delisted myself from plugshare. I might relist if they figure out how to add a "EV only Urgent Charge" option....


"EV only Urgent Charge" you can put that in your description, but to me this is quite obvious that if you ask is either emergency or person is trying to do longer distance and planning in advance.
If I won't be comfortable with person and request to charge inside I will offer 120V plug outside
Maybe my situation here is different but in the land of limited no gas cars I am more than happy to meet and talk to other owners and treat request as opportunity to meet
We are back to QC infrastructure for longer trips and using L2 to get to QC

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