World's Largest Electric Vehicle Gathering, Aug 9, 2014

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thankyouOB said:
tony,
i am not much for gatherings but if it looks as if you need bodies to make 1000 vehicles, let me know. i live nearby.

We will need you!!! Close in cars that don't need charging are premium.

Obviously, we want Nissan LEAFs to be present by the hundreds, which I think is very doable, but a few official Nissan ones would be great. Particularly something unique like the 48kW LEAF that was entered in some study / event that I read about. Or, even a show car that is electric. Maybe something from Nissan's design studio in San Diego or the new facility in the San Francisco area? How about their first Nissan Electric (1948?) would certainly be iconic. How about an NV-2000 EV taxi built for London? Bladerunner?

By the way, I did find a 1914 Beardsley Electric (the first EV built in California) and the museum agreed to let us show it. We just need to raise the funds to ship a fragile car half way across the USA and back! We will also have Tom Hank's personal eBox electric (built by AC Propulsion) and the first 18650 cell car that inspired Tesla in 2003 to build the Roadster that way. We will have several examples of "Electric Shoppers" from a Long Beach, California company called The Electric Car Company of California (1951-1962). The Historic Electric Vehicle Foundation will display some cars, including the 1948 Autoette amongst several other EV brands that you never heard of.

We have a tentative agreement with the world's first Baja Off-Road electric racer. Other tentative agreements are with the Pike's Peak Hill Climb winning EV, and perhaps the first EV motorcycle to beat EVERY motorcycle (gasoline, too) last summer on that race.

Definitely, we will have virtually every electric motorcycle manufacturer, most of which are on the USA west coast, but also Energica from Italy. FormulaE is a distant chance, since the first round of their new series is in China in September, but our event will be right in the heart of the Long Beach Gran Prix. UPS, FedEx, Frito-Lay, the Port of Los Angeles, and anybody else with an EV work related vehicle has been invited to the event.

BYD has tentatively agreed to bring a EV bus and some EV cars. Jay Leno has been approached, but no firm offer yet on what he might display. Did I mention that there would be Nissan LEAFs? There's no surprise that they'll be a whole bunch of Tesla cars. We really need 300-400 of each present.
 
Tony, will there be any events or gatherings scheduled in San Diego? Maybe something down at the border or further north of there? We are close to the I-54/I-805. Not sure if we could make it up to Long Beach. It would probably take two recharges with DCQC just to get there.
 
I have the same issue. By then I suspect that I'd need a charge mid way down, a charge there, and a charge midway back to make it...

smkettner said:
Range will be tough for me by August.
I will keep this on my mind as it sounds like a great event.
 
Yes, I'm well aware of Nissan LEAF range issues. The plan is a ring of chargers around Long Beach of about 20 to 30 miles, so that you can be charged up enough to get there and back.

Yes, I understand that it may take more than one charge to get there from San Diego county. I'd recommend comin up Saturday, have a nice dinner, crash out in a nice hotel that let's you charge overnight, and be ready to launch for Long Beach on Sunday morning.

Another option is to trailer the car within the target range to reach Long Beach and return to the tow vehicle.

I know nobody wants LEAFs to be outnumbered by Tesla Model S cars, so it will take a bit of effort for some, but I think the result will be well worth it.
 
Tony's idea of staying overnight while trickling up to 100% is a good one that would minimize demand on charging infrastructure. Obviously, that probably won't work for everyone without some planning - not enough L2 infrastructure!

Really the biggest issue is that while there are a good number of QC locations now, all of these locations only have a single QC which becomes a bottleneck.

Let's say just 50 LEAFs decide to make the trek from San Diego County to Long Beach the same day - somewhere between 70-110 miles for a total of 140-220 miles. That's somewhere between 1 full charge to a bit over 3 full charges required to make the trip (assuming one starts with a full charge). If QCing to 80% and starting with 100%, people in north county will need at least 2 QCs (~60 mi + ~45 mi + ~45 mi = 120 mi), people from further south will need 3-4 QCs.

San Juan Capistrano will be a popular spot to stop being 25-65 mi away from San Diego, but only one plug and 25 kW max. It's about 40 miles up HWY 1 to Long Beach from there (so only about 70% charge needed), but then you have the issue of getting back.

If taking I405, Quail Hill will also be a popular spot being 40-80 mi from San Diego. But there are reports that this is also a 25 kW station. At least there are 3 L2 stations here, too. You'll have about 30 miles to Long Beach from here, so only a 60% charge needed.

Next along I405 is Connell Nissan. Only 13 mi up from Quail Hill, so should be reachable from north SD County. Now this is only 25 miles from Long Beach, so a 80% QC here will get you to and from Long Beach with a new LEAF and/or a bit of hypermiling.

Another option might be to take I5 through Tustin stopping at Tustin Nissan (50 miles from north SD County, also 25 miles from Long Beach). Woodbury Town Center is not far from here and also a good

But because there's only one QC at all of these locations, you're not going to move much more than 2 cars through each location an hour. Just shuffling 50 LEAFs up there is going to mean 25 hours of QC, assuming optimal use of the 5 QCs and 50 LEAFs, that's a 5 hour spread (10 cars per QC station) to get all the cars there with enough charge to start heading back. 30A L2 capable cars will be useful if there are nearby L2 stations - a 2-3 hour L2 will be equivalent to a single QC. Even on 16A 5 hours is good, but what do you do for those 5 hours? I suspect there will be a lot of mini-meets near the popular charging spots while people hang out waiting for a charge!

Potentially useful equipment:
EVSE upgrade with adapters - for use in a pinch if you get stuck somewhere without a charging station.
J1772 Hydra to split 30A EVSEs into 2 plugs for 16A limited vehicles.
J1772 Adapter Box - will let you use your EVSE upgrade as an extension cord for ICEd or otherwise blocked charging stations.
Easy240 or Quick220 - Again, in case you get stuck somewhere in a pinch.

Tony - when/where are those other QC stations you've mentioned in the past going in?

Having some sort of dedicated message room/board or something will be useful for getting near-realtime info on charging station availability. The cautious traveler will give themselves plenty of time to make it for the 9am start!
 
This event changed to:

August 9, 2014, Saturday

9am - 12 noon

Courtyard by Marriott
Irvine Spectrum
7955 Irvine Center Drive
Irvine, CA

We need to beat 507 down in Stuggart, Germany last week.

Facebook: World's Largest Electric Vehicle Gathering here:

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This will be the big kick-off to our annual all-electric vehicle rally this summer, BC2BC-2014, 1500 miles from Mexico to Canada. We would like to bring as many electric powered vehicles as we can to Irvine, California at 9am until noon on August 9, 2014 for the "World's Largest Electric Vehicle Gathering".

The vehicles need to be assembled by 9am and remain assembled until 12:00pm. All the vehicles on the lot MUST BE ENTIRELY ELECTRIC POWERED. No hybrids, no fossil fuel cars, no "range extenders", no hydrogen. If you have tow vehicles that are not 100% battery electric, those must be parked off site, preferably in the parking lot across the street at Irvine Sprectrum shopping mall.

We have almost one thousand parking spots to fill, and we hope to do that with antiques, trucks, buses, cars, motorcycles, and anything else that is a transportation vehicle powered by autonomous battery electric power. We will have additional information in the coming months.


Tony Williams
Rally Organizer
1500 Miles from Mexico to Canada
August 10, 2014 until August 17, 2014
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For those LEAFs that need QCing, remember, 2013-14s QC to 90% in 30 minutes or less, unlike the 11-12s which is only 80% in the same time.
 
From Tony:

All,

I'm sad to report that all events planned for August 9-17, 2014, the 3rd annual BC2BC-2014 All Electric Vehicle Rally and the World's Largest Electric Vehicle Gathering are cancelled.

Coming off our fantastic event last year, we had planned a far bigger and better program this year. We suffered some set backs when we lost our original venue at the Long Beach Arena, but we regrouped to find a location in Irvine, California with the same dates.

I have to say that sponsorship interest was high, but ultimately we were never able to sign a single major sponsor by our cutoff date. Not one. The costs are already significant just to get the event to this point, and without major sponsors like we had last year, that left only me to fund the events.

One of the several outcomes for our events was promotion of the California West Coast Electric Highway. Sadly, the folks that I have been working with in the governor's office have largely moved on and I just don't see anything happening from California that would match what Oregon and Washington states have already done, and are expanding on. It seems we are beating a dead horse there.

The singular biggest disappointment is the lack of support from actual electric vehicle manufacturers, particularly Nissan and Tesla. These two companies are leaders in the market, but in the third year of this event, we never got even the most basic support. Not a Tweet, not a Facebook post, not anything whatsoever, ever. In Tesla's case, last year we actually had one Tesla Model S owner who had to leave his car behind and rent a gasoline car to finish the event because a Tesla sales office wouldn't let him charge there. I truly think that this type of support is also a dead horse as far as this event is concerned.

Going forward to potential future events, honestly, unless a sponsor were upfront with the money to make it happen, I wouldn't even start the planning. It really is a full time job with real costs. All of the many electric vehicle events that I have planned in the past have been entirely non-profit with no fee whatsoever to the participants. We have already discussed the possibility of one such event for next year with a potential sponsor.

I'd like to thank Zan Dubin Scott for her help in marketing. Also, many thanks to Angus Clark for securing our new launch location, and a long list of others who were instrumental in planning our Stage Overnight city activities and surprises along the way. There are just too many people for me to name, as I'm sure I'd miss somebody. One standout person from last year was Tonia Buell from the State of Washington Department of Transportation who I can't thank enough to make last year's event truly legendary.

I'd also like to thanks all our sponsors who already stepped up for this year and the many, many well wishes and encouragement that I have personally received along the way. It is truly humbling and all I can say is that whatever successes I've had promoting electric vehicles, it was only possible because I stand on the shoulders of giants in our electric vehicle industry.

I thank you all,

Tony
 
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