What do I tell friends charging will cost them?

[camasleaf]

I got the EVSE upgrade and plugged it into a killowatt and I only get 1000 watts. ??

Is the battery almost full? Did you plug into a 120v or a 240v outlet?

 

[cwerdna]

So, during those hours, if you were in the highest tier, it'd be $1.118/kWh!

That is insane :shock: . It is hard for me to believe that the utility can justify that price.

And, keep in mind that for some geographic areas, the baselines might be bad/too low. As I posted at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=376411#p376411" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;:

Take a look at the E-1, E-6 and EV schedules at http://www.pge.com/tariffs/ERS.SHTML#ERS" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

I'm in area X of http://www.pge.com/myhome/customerservice/financialassistance/medicalbaseline/understand/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, so my "summer" per day baseline is 11.0 kWh and "winter" is 11.7 kWh.

Multiply by the # of days in a month. Once you cross the 100% mark on the baseline, you start going into tier 2, then 3 and so on... http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=379804#p379804" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is where I posted how they determine baselines.

Also see these:
http://www.pge.com/en/myhome/saveenergymoney/plans/tiers/index.page" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=378936#p378936" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=235977#p235977" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=373622#p373622" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[Nubo]

So, during those hours, if you were in the highest tier, it'd be $1.118/kWh!

That is insane :shock: . It is hard for me to believe that the utility can justify that price.

Well, it's the carrot-and-stick approach. Even if the "carrot" is microscopic and the "stick" is a sequoia. :lol:

PG&E purports to be encouraging time-of-day behaviors but their rate structures are so byzantine and the negative incentives so punitive, you practically need to be a Fields Medal recipient to have a chance to benefit from them.

 

[Graffi]

I got the EVSE upgrade and plugged it into a killowatt and I only get 1000 watts. ??

To give you an accurate answer we need the following:
Circuit Voltage
Circuit Amperage
Starting % (or miles remaining on the GOM)
Ending % (or miles remaining on the GOM)
Year and Style of your Leaf ( You have MY 2012 SL, so has max of 6.6kw)

On a 240v/40a circuit I get the full 6.6kw charge going into my MY2013 SL using my 30a EVSE, that is about 27.5 amps.

On a 120v/15a circuit you will only get about 12a max so 120 X 12 = 1,444 watts. If anything else is on that circuit (lights, fan, A/C, etc) it will reduce the amount of watts you can draw. (I was corrected and told that the charge does not reduce but that it will blow the breaker)

Hope this helps.

 

[CMYK4Life]

As you can see it depends on many factors.

I would just answer the question indirectly. I would state how much it costs ME at MY house to charge from 0%-100%. Then state what % I charged at the friends house, then do the math.

In most cases it will be $5 or less. So the fact that you are buying them a dinner or breakfast means they are getting the better deal - which is good because then they wont mind!

So, for example, I know that at my house it costs about $2.25 to charge the Leaf from 0-100%. I drive to my friends house and arrive at 50% battery left. I spend the night and charge back to 100%. Therefore I would say I used around $1.15 in electricity (assuming the electricity rate is the same or similar).

My numbers are not exact but that was not the intent. The costs are so small if your friend wants to argue with you over a dollar or two.... I wouldnt visit as often lol.

 

[mctom987]

On a 240v/40a circuit I get the full 6.6kw charge going into my MY2013 SL using my 30a EVSE, that is about 27,500 watts, 27.5kw.

kW and kWh are very different metrics. It's the same as confusing gallons with horsepower.
kW = horsepower, kWh = gallons.

For what it's worth, 1 gallon of gasoline is equal to ~34.02 kWh, and 1 horsepower is equal to ~0.746kW.

 

[johnrhansen]

I like to bring friends little presents in appreciation for letting me plug in. A handmade bar of soap. a six pack of good beer. Something like that. after all, they are your friends... this way they will be thrilled to see you and let you plug in!