Went to the DRIVE THE FUTURE Test Drive event at Braman BMW today in downtown Miami. The event was low key. No signage outside of the dealership indicating there was an event. They could have at least put a BMW or I3 logo on the tent at the event!spike09 said:First saw the i3, two of them parked side by side actually, at ArtBasel earlier this year. I will be test driving the car at a dealer event on Wednesday. I wonder when the car will be available in South Florida, a major BMW market, considering the first 28K i3's are already reserved?
mkjayakumar said:I will wait for another year or so and pick up a high mileage base Tesla Model S 60, for the same price. I am guessing Model S with 75K miles on it would still have 160+ miles range would sell for around 45K.
JeremyW said:A high-mileage BMW may be nearing its warranty coverage, hopefully good extended warranties plans will be offered. I wouldn't take my chances with a car like an i3 w/o warranty, preferably backed up by the manufacturer.
I know that all too well, previously owning a 318ti. :twisted:
All BEVs have super expensive electronic bits that could go bad "without warning" but the fundamental part (motor) should be good "practically forever" right?
mkjayakumar said:Cars like i3 with sub 100 mile range on a good day and 60 mile range on a cold rainy day, that are super expensive simply bring more derision, cynicism, ridicule and make it harder for EV adoption.
mkjayakumar said:Model S can do perform that basic function with ease.
mkjayakumar said:A Leaf and an i3 simply *cannot* be your only car except for die hard EV fanatics (and I am close to one, I admit).
LTLFTcomposite said:Does the i3 have a "hold" mode like the newer volts?
And that's why it will fall short here. Since they aren't getting the white stickers and the green stickers are gone, they have to give people a hold mode, 'cause then at least you could consider taking it on shorter road trips that involve lots of climbing (like the Bay Area to Tahoe or Yosemite). Otherwise, it's too underpowered when running on the ICE with a depleted battery.Boomer23 said:LTLFTcomposite said:Does the i3 have a "hold" mode like the newer volts?
In Europe, yes. In the US, no. BMW is trying to chase some arcane CARB low emission designation, so they don't want us Yanks turning on the range extender whenever we want to. It only comes on at very low SOC, automatically.
GRA said:And that's why it will fall short here. Since they aren't getting the white stickers and the green stickers are gone, they have to give people a hold mode, 'cause then at least you could consider taking it on shorter road trips that involve lots of climbing (like the Bay Area to Tahoe or Yosemite). Otherwise, it's too underpowered when running on the ICE with a depleted battery.
TomT said:Yep, now that the whiter sticker experiment was a failure, might as well do a software upgrade and restore hold.
GRA said:And that's why it will fall short here. Since they aren't getting the white stickers and the green stickers are gone, they have to give people a hold mode, 'cause then at least you could consider taking it on shorter road trips that involve lots of climbing (like the Bay Area to Tahoe or Yosemite). Otherwise, it's too underpowered when running on the ICE with a depleted battery.
Yes, people want to believe BMW is doing all this for customer benefit - not to get some credits.TomMoloughney said:I've tried to explain the white sticker situation for a while now and it seems the majority of people just "want" to believe BMW was trying to get a white sticker, but that just isn't the truth. Of course they would take it id CARB decided to be generous, but that is highly unlikely and BMW knows it.
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