GRA
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Sure have, but as I also wrote,AndyH said:You and I have both given real-world examples that refute the above, haven't we? :lol:GRA said:As the link states, _unless_ you also raise the price of the energy, energy efficiency will result in more of it being used (in the medium and long-term).
Now, you are moving off-grid I believe, and maybe building yourself an Earthship to live in. I used to design and sell off-grid AE systems to people just like you (and also took classes in shelter design as well as spent time helping someone build a rammed-earth home). Do you consider us representative of typical Americans? :lol:GRA said:My lifestyle choices, and the lifestyle choices of many here are hardly representative of the typical american, yet even with someone as energy and environmentally-conscious as I am, if I could drive my car the same distance for less I would use it more - when gas was $1.50 gallon or less I was driving 10-12,000 miles/year.
What did that survey of typical Leaf owners show, that 92% or maybe it was 96% of them owned their own homes and that 52% had post-graduate degrees? Not exactly a representative cross-section of the American public, is it? The average American won't conserve energy for environmental reasons, and they won't do so for energy/national security reasons either. The _only_ reasons they will do so are because not doing so hits them in the wallet, or else because accessing that energy is very inconvenient. IMO the same holds true for just about every other human population grouping on the planet, outside the miniscule lunatic fringe (such as ourselves) who do so for ideological reasons.