How much do you pay for electricity?

[Computerizer]

I'm on Puget Sound Energy. My total rate changes a lot due to changes in surcharges and such. I'm billed bi-monthly, and have two rates; the first is for the first 1200 kWh for the 2-month period, the second is for the rest. These rates are for PSE's "Green Power", which supports solar, wind, etc. In my case I've been on my own solar PV since October 4th, though.

Current rates, as of Nov 1, 2013, are $0.094733 and $0.113555.

With two LEAFs, we use about 350 kWh per month for the cars. If we actually used grid power for them, this would cost us up to $19.87 per car (higher rate).

 

[DougWantsALeaf]

In Skokie .05 kw/h +.025 for distribution and tax

 

[nosuchthing]

Let us simplify this, fellow Leafers.

Please take the entire dollar amount you pay for elecricity portion of your bill and divide it by the total amount of kW billed and post your number in cents per kW.

Thus we can first of all compare what who's paying AND you'll know how much in cents per miles you're actually paying to propel yourself in your Leaf.

I have PG&E's EV rate now, and my winter rate cost is 17 cents per kW. My old E7 rate with 4 tiers cost me 28 cents per kW. I am curious to find out what my summer rate cost will be. That remains to be seen as we move past April 30th.

 

[planet4ever]

Please take the entire dollar amount you pay for elecricity portion of your bill and divide it by the total amount of kW billed and post your number in cents per kW. Thus we can first of all compare what who's paying AND you'll know how much in cents per miles you're actually paying to propel yourself in your Leaf.

Oh, so wrong. As I, and others, have said, it simply doesn't work that way if you have a tiered schedule. Or if you are paying different rates at different times of the day.

Ray

 

[dgpcolorado]

Please take the entire dollar amount you pay for elecricity portion of your bill and divide it by the total amount of kW billed and post your number in cents per kW.

Thus we can first of all compare what who's paying AND you'll know how much in cents per miles you're actually paying to propel yourself in your Leaf.

Ok, I'll play:

My most recent bill, excluding the $16.32 monthly service charge:

231 kWh @ 0.137555 = $31.78
231 kWh net metering credit = -$31.78
2% county sales tax = $0.64

Total = $0.64

Price per kWh = $0.64/231 kWh = $.002771/kWh = 0.2771¢/kWh

So, about a third of a penny per kWh, thanks to our tiny county sales tax. It is barely a rounding error in my budget.

My cumulative LEAF mileage is 4 miles/kWh, measured from the wall. So my cost per mile:

(0.2771 ¢/kWh)/4 miles/kWh = 0.0693 ¢/mile; less than a tenth of a cent per mile.


[But I agree with Ray that the average charge per kWh isn't meaningful in places with tiered or TOU rate structures.]

 

[pyrotech]

(Really cold last month) 240.21/1910=$.126 per KWh

Driving electric is a major saving over gas, so with some of that savings I've opted for Pacific Power's Blue Sky program. Now I pay 1 cent more per KWh and they purchase renewable energy in the amount of my monthly usage. So for less than $20/month my whole house electric bill is renewable energy.
Step up to the plate and get on board if you are able. Kermit's wrong, it's easy being Green! :mrgreen:

 

[nosuchthing]

Price per kWh = $0.64/231 kWh = $.002771/kWh

Just calculate your total bill with all the electrical costs including transmission, taxes, etc., and divide it by the total kW used. Just like pyrotech's entry above.

Let us see that number.

 

[DougWantsALeaf]

646kw/h for $67.1 - $9.58 (customer/meter charge) = 8.9 cents per kw/h

This is inclusive of the different taxes and franchise costs. Not all are linear to usage

 

[nosuchthing]

646kw/h for $67.1 - $9.58 (customer/meter charge) = 8.9 cents per kw/h

Cheap! You must live in WA.

 

[DougWantsALeaf]

Skokie. Base electricity rate is .0499 per kw/h then nearly 4 cents for distribution and taxes

 

[dgpcolorado]

Price per kWh = $0.64/231 kWh = $.002771/kWh

Just calculate your total bill with all the electrical costs including transmission, taxes, etc., and divide it by the total kW used. Just like pyrotech's entry above.

Let us see that number.

I did give that number. But if you want to include the fixed service charge, which is completely independent of how much electricity is used, the numbers for last month would be like this:

$16.96/231 kWh = $0.0734/kWh = 7.34 ¢/kWh

However, if I were to double the amount of electricity I used that number would drop by half, and vice versa, so it isn't really meaningful. The service charge would be the same if I used zero power unless I went off-grid. If I used one kWh a month the cost using that scheme would be $16.33/kWh, which is absurd.

No, the only way to look at power cost is to set aside the fixed monthly cost, which is usually small compared to the metered rates for most people, and focus on the charges applicable to actual usage.

 

[dfwJim]

When estimating what a Leaf would cost to drive I scrounged up a few statements, and this is my rate as quoted on my bill. My plan is not tiered. In TX we have a confusopoly of retail electric providers. Last time I picked a provider it was impossible to determine real rate, because all the quoted rates were introductory time-limited rates. Anyway, I went with a co-op, and the rates can and do fluctuate, but I can and have received a distribution at the end of each year, so December and part of January has been paid by that credit for me for 3 years. If I bother to do the full calculation I'll post back here.

Date			CostPerkWh
10/10/2012	0.12
11/ 7/2012	0.135
12/ 5/2012	0.145
4 /11/2013	0.151
5 / 8/2013	0.15
6 / 5/2013	0.144
7 / 3/2013	0.133
8 / 7/2013	0.125
9 / 4/2013	0.122
10/ 2/2013	0.125
12/ 4/2013	0.148

 

[EvansvilleLeaf]

$0.143 in S Indiana no TOU or tiers (there is some discounted rate if you are all electric with no gas heat but ignorant as to details).

 

[EVDRIVER]

It is so easy to be far above baseline with PG&E high E1 rates:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)
Baseline Usage $0.13230 ( )
101% - 130% of Baseline $0.15040 ( )
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.32377 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline $0.36377 (I)
Over 300% of Baseline $0.36377 (I)

Total Minimum Charge Rate ($ per meter per day) $0.14784

 

[Limey]

.14 for standard
.05 for night time charging from seven to seven with a .23 daytime rate
.024 "energy for tomorrow" rate. By paying it they get all your electricity from green sources

 

[dfwJim]

Ok, for the past 12 months I have used a total of 10,073 kWh and paid $1,291.24 for an all-inclusive average of $0.13/kWh.

I don't have a plug-in car, so that's all household use. The sales tax is the only item on the bills besides energy use, and it appears to be slightly under 1%, and my plan is not tiered so I would expect the average hourly rate to remain about the same if I had been charging a Leaf all year.

When estimating what a Leaf would cost to drive I scrounged up a few statements, and this is my rate as quoted on my bill. My plan is not tiered. In TX we have a confusopoly of retail electric providers. Last time I picked a provider it was impossible to determine real rate, because all the quoted rates were introductory time-limited rates. Anyway, I went with a co-op, and the rates can and do fluctuate, but I can and have received a distribution at the end of each year, so December and part of January has been paid by that credit for me for 3 years. If I bother to do the full calculation I'll post back here.

Date			CostPerkWh
10/10/2012	0.12
11/ 7/2012	0.135
12/ 5/2012	0.145
4 /11/2013	0.151
5 / 8/2013	0.15
6 / 5/2013	0.144
7 / 3/2013	0.133
8 / 7/2013	0.125
9 / 4/2013	0.122
10/ 2/2013	0.125
12/ 4/2013	0.148

 

[smkettner]

It is so easy to be far above baseline with PG&E high E1 rates:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)
Baseline Usage $0.13230 ( )
101% - 130% of Baseline $0.15040 ( )
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.32377 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline $0.36377 (I)
Over 300% of Baseline $0.36377 (I)

Total Minimum Charge Rate ($ per meter per day) $0.14784

Baseline is for a 2 bedroom apartment, gas appliances, no air conditioning.

 

[solartarzan]

PNM - Power New Mexico

PNM Rates are Tiered. I believe Tier 2 starts after 600 kWh
Tier 1 Tier 2
0.0906237 0.1185101

However, I have solar panels on my home, so I'm usually only paying in Dec, Jan, & Feb.