MikeinPA
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Very interesting! "dealer put my dashboard back incorrectly such that I wasn't able to set it to full heat."
MikeinPA said:Very interesting! "dealer put my dashboard back incorrectly such that I wasn't able to set it to full heat."
SageBrush said:Talking about the 24 kWh pack,goldbrick said:Isn't each module 2S/2P configuration ? So 5V on a module would mean 2.5V on an individual cell which is fairly low for Li battery IIRC.
We know there are 96 serial elements
And Nissan says 24 modules and 4 cells per module. 24*4 = 96
So is it actually 8 cells per module and 4 serial elements ?
No pack replacement under warranty for youDaveinOlyWA said:Turtle on my S40 @ 8 GID, voltage range (per pair) 2.981 to 3.067 v SOC 1.7% 2.5? Not happening.
SageBrush said:No pack replacement under warranty for youDaveinOlyWA said:Turtle on my S40 @ 8 GID, voltage range (per pair) 2.981 to 3.067 v SOC 1.7% 2.5? Not happening.
And irrelevant. The extra cells are in parallel.DaveinOlyWA said:SageBrush said:No pack replacement under warranty for you
Sadly, the same parameters for the 30 kwh degradation warranty has been carried over to a pack more than 100% larger. How is that equitable? Only Nissan would figure out a way when paying for more, you get less.
SageBrush said:And irrelevant. The extra cells are in parallel.DaveinOlyWA said:SageBrush said:No pack replacement under warranty for you
Sadly, the same parameters for the 30 kwh degradation warranty has been carried over to a pack more than 100% larger. How is that equitable? Only Nissan would figure out a way when paying for more, you get less.
DougWantsALeaf said:Guessing at 100k miles you still be above 80% SoH.
The Tesla Model S Plaid+ is presumed to have ~ a 135 kWh pack. By your reckoning they should get a new pack when 7.4% of new capacity is lost and the car range is down to a measly 481 miles.DaveinOlyWA said:Not sure what cell config has to do with warranties so lets put it another way. The 30 kwh only has to lose 10 kwh to get a new battery that is 33% larger. I have to lose over 22 kwh
SageBrush said:The Tesla Model S Plaid+ is presumed to have ~ a 135 kWh pack. By your reckoning they should get a new pack when 7.4% of new capacity is lost and the car range is down to a measly 481 miles.DaveinOlyWA said:Not sure what cell config has to do with warranties so lets put it another way. The 30 kwh only has to lose 10 kwh to get a new battery that is 33% larger. I have to lose over 22 kwh
I'm trying and failing to come up with a polite descriptor for your 'reasoning'
Take the off-topic elsewhere. Leave this thread for OP and his interesting story.DaveinOlyWA said:SageBrush said:The Tesla Model S Plaid+ is presumed to have ~ a 135 kWh pack. By your reckoning they should get a new pack when 7.4% of new capacity is lost and the car range is down to a measly 481 miles.DaveinOlyWA said:Not sure what cell config has to do with warranties so lets put it another way. The 30 kwh only has to lose 10 kwh to get a new battery that is 33% larger. I have to lose over 22 kwh
I'm trying and failing to come up with a polite descriptor for your 'reasoning'
You might if you put down the koolaide. What is Tesla's degradation warranty anyway?
LeftieBiker said:Your English is better than many native English speakers can manage.
I didn't watch the video yet, but the description sounds like one or more cells in the battery are bad, or at least weak. The Battery Management System (BMS), which I think is what the dealer replaced, uses cell voltages to make decisions on how to display State of Charge (SOC), and when to slow or stop the car because of low charge. If some - or even one! - cells are weak, then they basically fool the BMS into 'thinking' that the car has less charge than it really has. To put it another way: the battery is only as strong as it weakest cells.
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