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Re: auto industry discussion

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 5:51 pm
by cwerdna
Toyota dethrones GM to become America’s top-selling automaker in 2021
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/04/toyota- ... -2021.html
Toyota outsold GM in 2021, marking the first time since 1931 that the Detroit automaker wasn’t the best-selling car company in the U.S.
The historic change occurred as Toyota was able to manage supply chain issues better than GM, including an ongoing shortage of semiconductor chips.

Re: auto industry discussion

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:41 am
by cwerdna
US: Toyota Sold Over 52,000 Plug-In Cars In 2021
The group also sold almost 600,000 electrified vehicles, which is more than anyone else.
https://insideevs.com/news/558967/us-to ... ales-2021/

Re: auto industry discussion

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:31 am
by SageBrush
cwerdna wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:41 am US: Toyota Sold Over 52,000 Plug-In Cars In 2021
I think you are trying to say plug-in hybrid cars.
The remainder of the 'electrified' cars are hybrid.

Toyota gets the pretender crown for 2021, but in 2022 50k pretender cars a month is chicken feed.

Re: auto industry discussion

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:56 am
by cwerdna
Those words were just copy/paste from the article. I don’t disagree with the first part of your statements.

Re: auto industry discussion

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:22 am
by SageBrush
cwerdna wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:56 am Those words were just copy/paste from the article.
Then quote the article
That is the problem with an echo chamber. GIGO

Re: auto industry discussion

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:56 am
by LeftieBiker
I lost a post here. It said that, having stalled and fought against BEVs for so many years, they have lost the chance to offer the Toyota/Subaru BEV at a competitive price.

Re: auto industry discussion

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:45 am
by cwerdna
SageBrush wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:22 am
cwerdna wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:56 am Those words were just copy/paste from the article.
Then quote the article
That is the problem with an echo chamber. GIGO
It's the first two lines of it. That's why I preceded the URL with those two lines.

If you hadn't noticed, many of my pointers to news stories have been of the same style.

Re: auto industry discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:27 am
by jlv
LeftieBiker wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:56 am I lost a post here. It said that, having stalled and fought against BEVs for so many years, they have lost the chance to offer the Toyota/Subaru BEV at a competitive price.
You said that here: viewtopic.php?p=616364#p616371

Re: auto industry discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:35 pm
by LeftieBiker
So I did. Senior Moment, I guess.

Re: auto industry discussion

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:29 am
by cwerdna
'Out of control': Buyers paying thousands over sticker price for new cars
Expect high prices for the foreseeable future.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/control ... d=82489039
Tyson Jominy, vice president of data and analytics at J.D. Power, said 87% of consumers are currently paying above MSRP, which is already at a record high. The average new vehicle price is now $45,283 versus $35,000 in December of 2019, according to J.D. Power. The global chip shortage and supply crunch have led to surging prices, Jominy said.