nismoboy34
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

mux wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:29 pm There's a full schematic and layout as well as some starter code, all CC-BY-SA as per the included license. It's all packaged together.

If you're unsure what is and isn't allowed, please read the license! I've included it for a reason - this is how you avoid any and all confusion around what is and isn't allowed.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

I wonder if the hiked prices of cars has changed the calculus of battery upgrades for the Leaf?
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Stanton
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

DougWantsALeaf wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 12:48 pm I wonder if the hiked prices of cars has changed the calculus of battery upgrades for the Leaf?
I have wondered the same thing as prices for salvaged Leafs rise well beyond what I paid over a year ago...and come to the following conclusion: if this is what I really wanted to do, I probably would have just "bit the bullet" and paid whatever the market demanded. After all, there is still a 3x-4x price difference between upgrading/extending the life of my current Leaf and buying a new car.
I'm just glad I did it when I did it--and I'm very happy with the result!
2011 Blue Ocean SV w/OVMS
12v LiFePO4 battery
FIAMM 74100 horns/Wet Okole seat covers/Tor's heater mod/Dala's CAN-bridge
Lizard Pack (Rev E) installed @51 months/41k miles
40 kWh Pack (Gen2) installed @115 months/84k miles
DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Yes it was.

I am visiting my sister who has a 2017 Leaf with 11 bars. Enough range left that its not really worth the investment and the battery is not trending towards a warranty replacement.

It's likely not worth it to buy a used Leaf and then buy an upgrade, but if you have a degraded Leaf currently, it might be worth it now.
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2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
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Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Not sure why this post duplicated, so removing this first one.
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

A few, very fortunate people might be lucky enough to find salvage 40 kWh packs for around $10k - $12k USD, as well as a heavily degraded, yet otherwise in good condition, older LEAF for under $5k - $7k USD.

Given what used 2018 LEAFs are selling for in this insane used car market, less than $20k all in (car + pack + CANBUS bridge + installation) for a good condition LEAF with a healthy, 40 kWh pack is a comparatively good deal.

I personally wouldn't do it even at that price though, as the current car market is way overpriced.
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
Zencar 12/20/24/30A L1/L2 portable EVSE
1-1/4" Curt #11396 hitch
After market, DIY LED DRLs
LeafSpy Pro + Konnwei KW902 ELM327 BT OBDII dongle
Loving my first BEV :D
goldbrick
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Don't forget that a new 40kWh Leaf can be had for ~$20k in some states if you qualify for the full tax credit. I don't know if my local utility is still giving rebates for a Leaf but I think there is still the $7500 federal and $2500 state tax credit available in Colorado for a Leaf.
DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

That's if you can find one..and one without markup. Our local dealer is putting 7500 on top of the msrp for the very few areas they are getting.

Only a couple new Leafs exist in Chicagoland right now.
2019 S Plus (93.3% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (89.9% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh
rmay635703
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Our country is exporting massive numbers of junk and used cars overseas , if you try to bid on said garbage they usually want as much for scrap as a new car.

Unfortunate we don’t place an export tarriff on the under 5 year old category, likely the cause of the jacked up scrap market as well
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

rmay635703 wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 6:46 am Our country is exporting massive numbers of junk and used cars overseas , if you try to bid on said garbage they usually want as much for scrap as a new car.
I was routinely competing with International bidders (especially Eastern European block) when I was trying to buy my salvage Leaf. I remember thinking a disproportionate number of salvage EVs were going to Ukraine/Russia/etc (although that may have changed recently).
2011 Blue Ocean SV w/OVMS
12v LiFePO4 battery
FIAMM 74100 horns/Wet Okole seat covers/Tor's heater mod/Dala's CAN-bridge
Lizard Pack (Rev E) installed @51 months/41k miles
40 kWh Pack (Gen2) installed @115 months/84k miles

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