lfp2cv
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Delivery Date: 28 Apr 2021

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Hi, I'm from Portugal and bought a 2013 Leaf this month.
Thanks!
DougWantsALeaf
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Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 8:21 pm
Delivery Date: 18 May 2013
Leaf Number: 407811
Location: Chicago North Side

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Boa Tarde,

Welcome to the Leaf circus. How many miles and bars on the car? What color?
2019 S Plus (93.3% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (89.9% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh
2019LeafS
Posts: 1
Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:11 pm
Delivery Date: 30 Dec 2021

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2019 leaf S silver with black cloth interior 2 options fast charge port with 240/120 V cable carpeted floor and trunk mat Original MSRP $31,800 incl destination charge. Bought this CPO car on 12/30/21 for $1899 plus usual dealer addons comes to about $260 a Mo for 6 yrs. less than 9,000 miles and there is 11mo left on factory 3yr/36k warrantee.
BabaYaga
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Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:55 am
Leaf Number: 301276
Location: Spokane, WA US

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Bought on a whim from Nissan dealer after engine and CVT issues on 2013 Subi Outback got both annoying and expensive as a daily commuter. Price was OK to get feet wet with an EV (all used cars are pricey today). Have 50A line to garage but have not yet picked a charger.

SOH at 81% is bad for a 2017 with 29k miles, too many charges for miles indicates bad hygiene by original owner - didn't know about this stuff when purchased. Enjoying learning the ins and outs of EVs.

Range is an issue - commute is 55 miles round trip. Looks like my best case is a 62 mile range from 85% charge @ 3.4 mi / kWh (average per Leaf Spy). Actual range is WAY LESS than the car's computer shows, so that is an estimate. With dash showing charged to 91%, drove 1 mile, and GIDs show 74.5% vs SOC @ 86.5% in LeafSpy. Dash shows 11 bars. It does get cold here - first week I had the Leaf temps were down to 5F to 15F. That isn't a concern for the 2 weeks of the year when the snow flies and the Subaru goes to the ski hills.

Spent $2500 on extended warranty covering everything up to 107,000 miles within 84 months. Battery replacement term is if SOH drops below 70% (I am at 81%) it gets replaced for free. I'm trying to figure out if I should cancel this and get money back due to overlapping mfg. warranty which dealer didn't tell me about and terms are not clear. What are odds of seeing 11% degradation over 2 or 3 years? Or should I ignore warranties and plan to find a better battery (if price and availability fall in future).

Researching DTC codes from LeafSpy:
U1000 0008 CDM CAN Comm Circuit
B2820 0008 CHARGER Quick Charger VC-63
U1266 0208 MULTI AV TCU Conn AV-92
Any insights before I go to dealer?
2017 Leaf, Silver SV
Bought 2/22 30k miles for $16k
50A 220V ready for L2 charger
SOH 81.34, 30 QC + 1264 L1/L2 - LeafSpy IOS
2014 Subi Crosstrek for road trips
2018 Caymen GTS in garage for fun
Oils4AsphaultOnly
Posts: 958
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:09 pm
Delivery Date: 20 Nov 2016
Leaf Number: 313890
Location: Arcadia, CA

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

BabaYaga wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:48 pm Bought on a whim from Nissan dealer after engine and CVT issues on 2013 Subi Outback got both annoying and expensive as a daily commuter. Price was OK to get feet wet with an EV (all used cars are pricey today). Have 50A line to garage but have not yet picked a charger.

SOH at 81% is bad for a 2017 with 29k miles, too many charges for miles indicates bad hygiene by original owner - didn't know about this stuff when purchased. Enjoying learning the ins and outs of EVs.

Range is an issue - commute is 55 miles round trip. Looks like my best case is a 62 mile range from 85% charge @ 3.4 mi / kWh (average per Leaf Spy). Actual range is WAY LESS than the car's computer shows, so that is an estimate. With dash showing charged to 91%, drove 1 mile, and GIDs show 74.5% vs SOC @ 86.5% in LeafSpy. Dash shows 11 bars. It does get cold here - first week I had the Leaf temps were down to 5F to 15F. That isn't a concern for the 2 weeks of the year when the snow flies and the Subaru goes to the ski hills.

Spent $2500 on extended warranty covering everything up to 107,000 miles within 84 months. Battery replacement term is if SOH drops below 70% (I am at 81%) it gets replaced for free. I'm trying to figure out if I should cancel this and get money back due to overlapping mfg. warranty which dealer didn't tell me about and terms are not clear. What are odds of seeing 11% degradation over 2 or 3 years? Or should I ignore warranties and plan to find a better battery (if price and availability fall in future).

Researching DTC codes from LeafSpy:
U1000 0008 CDM CAN Comm Circuit
B2820 0008 CHARGER Quick Charger VC-63
U1266 0208 MULTI AV TCU Conn AV-92
Any insights before I go to dealer?
2 things.
1 - the mfg battery warranty is for the battery to lose "4-bars" of health, not 70%. The 4th bar drops at around 65% SOH. So you'd have to lose another 14% SOH to qualify for the warranty replacement. Might be possible, but your local weather is going to work against you.

2 - Washington is one of those "ideal" environments for extending a Leaf's battery health. So if you want that replacement battery to be covered under warranty, then you'll have to "work" for it (leaving it fully charged under the hot sun for multiple days, multiple successive quick-charges, etc).

As for the extended warranty coverage, I believe that it explicitly excludes the main battery pack. Any mention of a "battery" is usually about the 12-volt lead-acid battery. You should double-check the wording in the contract. If it DOES include, then that's great, since the mfg battery pack warranty is only for 80,000 miles and 8 years (see how that doesn't line up with the extended warranty?).

One final note, the 2017 Leaf had a 30kwh battery pack, and any warranty replacements handled by Nissan will be replaced with a larger 40kwh battery pack. So if it happens for you, congrats!
:: Leaf S30 :: build date: Sep '16 :: purchased: Nov '16
:: Model 3 LR (Turo) :: acquired 9 May '18
:: Model Y LR AWD (wife's) :: acquired 30 Dec '20
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LeftieBiker
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IIRC, the battery warranty on the 30kwh pack is 100k miles and 8 years, but I may be misremembering.

Welcome to the forum, BabaYaga. The 30kwh battery has some...quirks... that are detailed in my used Leaf buying guide. I'll link that shortly. Be sure to read the entire section on the 30kwh packs. You most likely will be losing a second capacity bar shortly, but you should have plenty of range for a 55 mile RT commute. Inflate the tires to 40psi, and try to stay below 65MPH.

Used Leaf buying guide: https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... 2&p=538030
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Oils4AsphaultOnly
Posts: 958
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:09 pm
Delivery Date: 20 Nov 2016
Leaf Number: 313890
Location: Arcadia, CA

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

LeftieBiker wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:12 pm IIRC, the battery warranty on the 30kwh pack is 100k miles and 8 years, but I may be misremembering.

Welcome to the forum, BabaYaga. The 30kwh battery has some...quirks... that are detailed in my used Leaf buying guide. I'll link that shortly. Be sure to read the entire section on the 30kwh packs. You most likely will be losing a second capacity bar shortly, but you should have plenty of range for a 55 mile RT commute. Inflate the tires to 40psi, and try to stay below 65MPH.

Used Leaf buying guide: https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... 2&p=538030
My bad. 100k miles or 96 months.
:: Leaf S30 :: build date: Sep '16 :: purchased: Nov '16
:: Model 3 LR (Turo) :: acquired 9 May '18
:: Model Y LR AWD (wife's) :: acquired 30 Dec '20
100% Zero transportation emissions (except when I walk) and loving it!
reswanso
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Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:38 pm
Delivery Date: 25 Feb 2022
Leaf Number: 552305
Location: Boulder, CO

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Just purchased a 2021 Leaf SL Plus a week and a half ago. I was shopping for plugin hybrids and they had this on the lot and ready to go with 3500 miles on it. So far I like it except for the lack of a spare tire. I got a sidewall blowout after hitting a pothole in the snow last night and am now buying 2 new tires for my new car. :-(

I found this forum while researching tires and spares. I need to dig in more to learn about more of the nuances to EV driving. Still working on the 50amp plug so I'm just trickle charging from a 110V for now, or quick charging whie I'm out. I drive, on average, 450 miles a week, all around town shuttling kids, and return home to WFH in between, so I'm hoping this will be the perfect daily driver. It already saved me a ton of money over driving my 2013 Ford Expedition with it's lovely 12.5 MPG.
salyavin
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Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:51 pm
Delivery Date: 30 Dec 2019
Leaf Number: 318726
Location: Littleton , CO

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The lack of spare tires is frustrating but a common thing.
https://www.cars.com/articles/got-a-spa ... 697605296/
https://www.consumerreports.org/tires/s ... 928775934/

I had a Prius that had a spare tire but I understand the newer models no longer include one.

"Carmakers are skipping the spare because of regulatory pressure to squeeze more miles out of every gallon of fuel" range can be very important on a EV.

I have personally changed a tire in nowhere Utah and nowhere New Mexico (on that old Prius actually), in those two incidences waiting for a tow would have been quite painful while putting on a spare got us on back on the road much faster.
LeftieBiker
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The 'solution' of course is to carry a donut spare.
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2009 Vectrix VX-1 W/18 Leaf modules, & 2 lithium E-bicycles.
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