Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

[cwerdna]

Cruise told by regulators to ‘immediately’ reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash
https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/18/cruis ... ing-crash/

There were 2 incidents on Thursday: https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/ ... 302845.php.

[GRA]

As for me, I'll continue to refuse to use any ADAS system until such time as the manufacturer is willing to assume full legal liability for any accident the car gets into while driving itself, that a normally alert human driver would avoid. Until they no longer crash into stationary emergency vehicles with their flashing lights on, and similar dumb but easily avoidable accidents, count me out.

Another example, via IEVS:

Watch Tesla Model 3 Dive Into Flood Water While Running On FSD Beta

Both the driver and the FSD Beta system ignored a "Flooded" sign.

https://insideevs.com/news/682776/watch ... -fsd-beta/

[cwerdna]

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/c ... h/3303566/
"A driverless car and a construction vehicle were involved in a crash in San Francisco Thursday night, sources told NBC Bay Area.

The incident happened at around 9:20 p.m. on Gough Street near Geary.

According to sources, a Cruise car and a construction vehicle were driving southbound on Gough street near Geary, when the cruise car was in a middle lane when it tried to make a left turn on Starr King Way.

That's when the robotaxi crashed into a construction backhoe."

[cwerdna]

This was on local news tonight.

Cruise pushes back against claims from the SF fire department
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/c ... t/3309336/

https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/san ... ance-sffd/ has less detail about also discusses some other incidents.

[GaleHawkins]

I have been driving daily using FSD Beta for six months . I am impressed how it performs on narrow unmarked country lanes. It seems to be quite flawless on Interstates. It costs me $200 monthly. Hopefully version 12 will be out early 2024. At age 72 due to arthritis I can't get in and out of a Model 3 but the Y is doable.

[DougWantsALeaf]

The software looks remarkable. How does it perform in heavy rain/snow?

I am loving the coming battle between Cruise/Waymo and FSD from Tesla as they have very different approaches. With additional metros popping on the Cruise repertoire, it feels like Tesla recognizes they need to get to full hands free sooner.

Truth is there is room for both solutions.


While I don't put Propilot in the same league/century as those solutions, my wife already complains that she wishes the propilot could do the rest of the driving for her instead of just the highway.

[GaleHawkins]

FSD does well in heavy rain but I haven't driven in heavy snow. On snow and ice it's better than the Subaru Forester.

[cwerdna]

Driverless Cruise car attacked by person with hammer
https://www.ktvu.com/news/driverless-cr ... ith-hammer - there is a video

[DougWantsALeaf]

Truly rage against the machine

[cwerdna]

‘Never happen in New York’: SF tourists embrace controversial ride
https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/s ... 392764.php