Oils4AsphaultOnly
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

GaleHawkins wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:17 am I did not realize Santa Diego was that much cooler than Kentucky for summer temperatures not that's a major factor difference in our case. It must be nice to live in a place with no triple digit summer temperatures.
Your sarcasm belies your ignorance. San Diego is so much warmer (on average) than KY. Especially inland. Murray KY is at the same latitude as Monterey, CA, which is considered Northern California here. About 300 miles NORTH of San Diego. My area is 100 miles north of San Diego, and we regularly see 110+ a few days each year.

Looked at another way, for an area to reach 100 degrees DESPITE being close to the ocean, it must get REALLY warm there!
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

I'm not sure that Gale was being sarcastic. Let's not assume the worst of people...
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Oils4AsphaultOnly
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

LeftieBiker wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:29 pm I'm not sure that Gale was being sarcastic. Let's not assume the worst of people...
Being sarcastic isn't the worst that one can assume. And what Gale wrote was clearly sarcasm. He disagreed with me, I can acknowledge that.

Unless you think I went too far in calling him ignorant? In which case, I apologize for the insult.
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Just got word that Nissan has approved the warranty replacement for my 30kwh batter. 60k miles on my 2016. A slow and steady decline. At about 69% SOH I started getting weird symptoms. Under high power discharge (going up a canyon) everything shut down. Once it was able to restart, but the other two times, it had to be towed to the dealer. Replaced 12V battery and kept driving. Weird things kept happening. Last week, I was headed up the canyon and I looked down to see the charge percentage falling rapidly. I pulled over and it slowly came back up by about 15%. The next day I took it in. I had lost my 9th bar about 2 weeks ago and my SOH was at 64.5% so I was pretty sure there would be no attempt to "restore it to 9 bars" or other such shenanigans. Fortunately they got same day approval from corporate to do the swap. WooHoo! Totally looking forward to getting some range. I was down to 72 mi. at full charge with a useful range probably somewhere around 55 or so. Unfortunately 2 to 3 months was the quoted lead time on the battery.
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Leafchacho wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:10 pm Just got word that Nissan has approved the warranty replacement for my 30kwh batter. 60k miles on my 2016. A slow and steady decline. At about 69% SOH I started getting weird symptoms. Under high power discharge (going up a canyon) everything shut down. Once it was able to restart, but the other two times, it had to be towed to the dealer. Replaced 12V battery and kept driving. Weird things kept happening. Last week, I was headed up the canyon and I looked down to see the charge percentage falling rapidly. I pulled over and it slowly came back up by about 15%. The next day I took it in. I had lost my 9th bar about 2 weeks ago and my SOH was at 64.5% so I was pretty sure there would be no attempt to "restore it to 9 bars" or other such shenanigans. Fortunately they got same day approval from corporate to do the swap. WooHoo! Totally looking forward to getting some range. I was down to 72 mi. at full charge with a useful range probably somewhere around 55 or so. Unfortunately 2 to 3 months was the quoted lead time on the battery.
Don't be surprised if it takes even longer. I'm currently 1 week away from the 3 month mark and still waiting for the new pack to be slow-boated (from Japan) to the dealership.
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

LeftieBiker wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:29 pm I'm not sure that Gale was being sarcastic. Let's not assume the worst of people...
Thanks.

The 30 kWh pack didn't fail in 3 years/25K miles due cool temperatures in St. Louis. Frying the summer of 2016 fully charged on a hot parking lot was a negative I expect.
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:56 am My area is 100 miles north of San Diego, and we regularly see 110+ a few days each year.
And here I was thinking your location was Arcata. What a difference.
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

goldbrick wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:15 pm
Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:56 am My area is 100 miles north of San Diego, and we regularly see 110+ a few days each year.
And here I was thinking your location was Arcata. What a difference.
I didn't even know there was a city called Arcata in CA until now! Wow, very big difference in the two cities!
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

goldbrick wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:15 pm And here I was thinking your location was Arcata..
Arcata is new to me too. I did know though that San Diego is not a stone's throw from Oregon
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

For those who have dropped a 4th bar and kept track of stats via LeafSpy: Did you see a rapid degradation between the loss of your 3rd bar and loss of your 4th?

Asking because on 8/26/22 I lost my 3rd bar at 71.73% SOH. Today (10/5/22) I'm at 69.74% SOH after putting on an additional 1725 miles. Both SOH readings were at 97.7% SOC.
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1st bar loss: 10/24/19 @ 50731 miles | SOH 84.43%
2nd bar loss: 6/2/21 @ 61865 miles | SOH 78.73%
3rd bar loss: 8/26/22 @ 75041 miles | SOH 71.75%
4th bar loss: Expected Summer '23

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