GRA wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 6:54 pm
And it's still a gas hog, albeit one with more AER plus a third row of seats only suitable for small children. Unless you really need the latter, why would anyone opt for this over the RAV4 Prime?
Yes, I was really disappointed it had basically the same thirsty ICE and it's not just that, even the EV has to be a fair amount less efficient, that or it has to have a fair amount worse aero design, which is maybe more the case?.....
I mean it has a larger battery(20Kwh vs the Primes ~17Kw) yet it's range is less
To me one of the nicest things about the Prime is you can go 600 miles + on a full tank of gas and battery, the Outlanders full range is 420 miles, a BIG difference(yes of course the Prime has a slightly larger tank).
On the plus side, I'm impressed it has a Heat Pump heater, something I think is very important in a PHEV(even more important than a full EV IMO as your range is so much less) so I hope that's a sign of things to come in all EV variant cars.
The third row really sounds like a joke and I quote the article:
"Even children will have trouble fitting in that third row. If you’re big enough to have your feet on the floor, you’re too big for the third row."
While it does have CHAdeMO QC
it sounds like they cheaped out on L2, 15a for a vehicle with a 20Kwh battery
My favorite quote from one of the comment posts:
"That is why Mitsubishi exist.
Because some people insist on making the wrong decision."
Don't get me wrong, people could purchase a worse vehicle, most any of the Jeep variants come to mind but myself, I'll still be waiting for my Prime, 2+ years. I did just hear from my dealer, Apparently, my SE is on a ship bound for CA, just have to wait the 1-3 months it's apparently taking to offload them and then the rail journey to MN......I'm guessing we'll get it in the dead of winter(something I didn't really want) and it sounds like I'll be getting one of the last of the 22's
and the price went up from '20 when I put my deposit down not to mention a sneaky $1k addition as Toyota is no longer offering just the cold weather package as when I ordered it, they now FORCE you to get the damn sunroof if you want a heated steering wheel! oh and ya, $7500 more than I was planning as it will no longer qualify for the tax rebate I was planning on! So while it will be nice to finally retire the '07 Prius, it's going to cost close to $44k or almost $10k more than I was planning for, 2 years ago
Also note the dealer, while not charging over sticker is adding about $1k in stuff I didn't order, floor mats(which I may have purchased myself for much less) sill guards and related overpriced crap, guess it could be worse.......